[Texas Fossil]

Agree on Saudi’s, but there are signs of that changing somewhat.

In reality, old alliances like with Turkey or Saudi Arabia have a value, but only until they outlive that value by the cost of association. (not just financial, but also cultural and religious).

[Cronos]

My opinion is that the alliance with Saudia has brought nothing but pain. It should have been cut off in 1990 with the end of the Soviet Union.

With Turkey it has turned sour since Erdogan

I'm not proposing an alliance with Iran - keep the same pressure on them, what I am proposing is an end to any dalliance with the Sauds. No more American troops protecting Saudia interests.

And as for Turkey, time to cut them off from NATO.