I’ll try once more.
First, both sides of an argument can’t be right. They can both be wrong, but they can’t both be right.
I like the warmest illustration so I’ll stick with it. The ‘denier,’ side of the global warming argument want, and have wanted all along, two things. First, they’d like a major public forum in which to lay out their FACTS. The other side gets most of the exposure. Very little public attention is paid to the facts on the side of the ‘deniers.’ All they ask is to be allowed to make their case to the public. They are confident the facts will then speak for themselves.
Secondly, ‘deniers,’ want a fair debate. They have been challenging prominent warmists for many years to a public debate. The ‘deniers,’ are confident that with fair rules, they could mop the floor with any of the prominent warmists.
The warmists do NOT want a fair debate. They want the status quo to continue, which allows them to say whatever serves their purpose *without without a challenge.* Most of all they want the deniers to be silenced. Only when they alone are allowed to make their case does it appear to stand. If honest, public challenges were allowed, their case would collapse.
In short, the deniers desperately want to put the facts before the public, while the warmists just want the deniers to be silenced. Yes, you CAN tell from these two approaches which one has the facts. It’s very simple, really. When your position depends on silencing anyone who questions it, it’s bogus.
Please don't give up on me, Fantasywriter. You still might win. Keep trying.
Yes, you CAN tell from these two approaches which one has the facts. It’s very simple, really. When your position depends on silencing anyone who questions it, it’s bogus.
No, No, a trillion times no. How do you not get this.
You are right in one small part. It IS very simple. Let me be veryu precise. You use climate change, so I will also.
There is the truth. The climate is either changing or it is not. The truth is, that it is. It always has and always will. The real question is does man made activity affect climate change. It does not. There. That is the unalterable truth.
No amount of argument, ad campaigns, public exposure, silencing of opposition, mockery, or any other means of unfair argument can change the truth.
Many years ago, all people thought the earth was flat. Then some said it was round. They argued. They silenced, they mocked, etc. All the while, and forever before, the earth was not flat. The truth was always the truth. And so it goes with every disagreement.
Do you see my point? All your talk of climate change does nothing for your argument. You are still trying to make the manner of argument evidence of the truth. That is false.
You lose. I win.
We can continue if you like. I'm having fun.