Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 21 January 2018

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My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
James 1:2-3

Every Repub and Liberaltarian should be completely outraged the FBI and intelligence agencies were working with the DNC and the Clinton campaign to spy on the Trump campaign. This has been the greatest fear of every freedom loving American since J Edgar Hoover designed these agencies that they would spy on American citizens let alone campaigns. To have them corrupted to the point they would try to influence a free and fair Presidential election is the greatest fear any true American could ever have.

There are few things which rise to the level of actual treason and this is one due to what it does to the validity of the vote. Whoever was the head of this operation should be put in front of a firing squad and made an example. It should not be prison time or death by injection or electric chair, it needs to be a firing squad to let these people understand what they are entrusted to do. To compare this to Watergate is a farce since Nixon never used actual agencies and is really questionable anything illegal was actually done while this one has serious laws being broken by some of the most powerful agencies in the world with the intent of influencing a Presidential election.

When the FBI scandal was first being exposed some of us were suspecting it was bigger than any of the fake news distorters were letting on. Now we are finding there was a cabal formed similar to what you normally see in Nicaragua or Thailand inside the gummit to make sure their candidate would win. This cabal paid for the fake dossier saying Donald Trump as a private citizen visited Russia and paid hookers to pee on a bed because Obama had slept in it a couple years earlier. Never mind that President Trump is a germ-o-phoebe or that he was not there at the time, the Russians were going to blackmail him for this and needed to be investigated further.

This dossier was then delivered to the FBI by John McCain to give it an air of credibility even though the FBI and the Hillary campaign paid millions to have it produced. McCain may have been part of the cabal or a willing dupe, although it is very likely not exactly innocent since he has a burning hatred for Trump who dared question his heroism in the Hanoi Hilton. At this point they have broken laws with a campaign being helped by the FBI and government agencies and people need to be jailed, but then they take it to a whole different level which is beyond belief in a truly free country.

The dossier was then leaked to the press, most likely through FBI Director Comey. It was also being used by the cabal to issue a FISA warrant to be able to spy on the Trump campaign for being blackmailed by the Russians. Everyone except the judge knew this dossier was false and they lied to the judge into believing it was real and she issued search warrants to tap some or all of the Trump campaign phones and then passed that information on to the White House and the Clinton campaign. It is very likely every phone and computer in the Trump campaign was tapped and all of that information was passed to the Clinton Campaign to help her win the election. This truly was a miraculous win and God giving America one more chance.

For all those Social Justice Warriors, how fair is it to have the entire FBI, NSA and the rest of the Federal gummit trying to influence an election for Hillary Clinton? You are all bent out of shape because the Russians supposedly talked to the Trump campaign and put a few thousand posts on Facebook yet you have no problem with the entire Intelligence complex of the United States trying to determine the outcome of that same election for your candidate? This is the largest abuse of power we have seen in the histoir of America and someone needs to pay for it.

We have understood the Establishmedia is absolutely corrupt to the point of comical and that the DNC is rigged from top to bottom as well as the District of Corruption is a swamp, but you cannot have the Justice Department taking sides to influence free and open elections, this cannot stand. This is the same tactics which are used in the Soviet Union under Stalin, Cuba with Castro or Iraq and Hussain it is not supposed to occur in America.

This is not pie in the sky rainbow glasses this is an absolute there is not supposed to be campaigning by the spy agencies since the advantages they have are obvious. In this case they were very likely passing on Trump strategies to the Clinton campaign and she was using them to damage Trump. She was passing things to the press and they dutifully used it to hurt his campaign. One such item was the Russian collusion story which was passed directly from the FBI to her although she also made up the dossier which was leaked right before the vote.

The fourth amendment in the Constitution gives every American the Right to Privacy from the gummit and especially in elections. This is not a suggestion it is a guarantee and is supposed to be taken absolutely seriously by these agencies for them to exist without fear of American citizens. Because the Obama regime used communist tactics and broke down those walls either Obama ordered this or it was inferred to be ok to break these laws in the attempt to win a turd election to hide his criminal activities.

Watergate was about breaking the Fourth Amendment and spying on a rival candidate by tapping their phones. It was not done by the FBI but campaign operatives who were most likely attempting to get an incriminating piece of information on Dean’s wife, but who knows. This is using the most sophisticated spying apparatus ever developed to influence the outcome of a vote for the President of the United States. For this heads should roll and is the biggest scandal this country has ever had. Tom Clancy would have a hard time coming up with this size scandal.

There needs to be indictments on the principles that have obviously broken the law let alone their pledges and work up the chain of command to find out who was at the top of it. We can guess it was Barak since it resembles his other abuses such as the IRS, but we have to give him the benefit of the doubt until it is all exposed. The most important thing right now is to find who is guilty of this treason and made a harsh example. There is nothing worse morally than a dirty cop except a dirty FBI agent and that agent has to be made an example to make sure this never occurs again in America. This is the Shining City on a Hill because this does not happen here.

Fifty years ago every one of these conspirators would have been given a fair trial and then offered a blindfold and cigarette in front of a pock-filled wall. These traitors deserve the same. Mr. President, what did you know and when did you know it?

Pray America woke

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.

MSM will wish they didn’t have Meadows and Mulvaney on today. They are more “street” than the usual woosie boys...oh, where is Graham, speaking of woosie boys?

Like Nikki Haley, Mulvaney is incredibly effective on TV.

Calling fishtalk! One of her favs on today:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): White House budget director Mick Mulvaney; Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del.

I'm sure she will give the coon an earful.

Lots going on as usual,so much its difficult to cover it all.

In the aftermath of the War on Women, conservative women will have the floor while radical feminists sweep, mop and wax it.

Oh Noes! Mean old Trump shut down the Gov and the troops cant watch playoff football on AFRTS!

No mention that the troops can watch it on any other network.

I remember one year when I was in the service we had no TV.

We modified an oscilloscope and watched the Superbowl on a green screen lol

I guarantee the troops are eating breakfast this morning

• Morning AB, All. As always, thank you AB for doing this thread so reliably and keeping the peace with gentle thread policing. Thank you Bray for weekly written wisdom, Thank all yon contributors for excellent commentary to flesh it all out. Thank you RG for your insight from investigations you do.

Today I am going to begin with my story of this past week and all the good things that happened to me. Not bragging, but I figure if I complain all the time bad things will happen all the time.

Stay with me as I will finish with just what exactly in that FISA memo plus my thoughts and opinions on it.

Just to keep it on topic.

Early this week I was shopping in a local grocery and as I went down the condiment I found a ten dollar bill crumbled on the floor. I picked it up, of course, and looked around. Had somebody rushed up to me and asked if I found the money I would have gladly turned it over. If someone somehow knew that bill was laying about it was probably theirs.

Last Weds. I took the Jeep Liberty to the DMV for bi-annual inspection from a bill put up by car mechanics. The Jeep is now 12 years old but it’s been garage kept and driven lightly. But it needed new windshield wipers and the tires were always going flat and I just knew the thing would fail.

Within five minutes the Jeep passed inspection and within a few more minutes I was in line and paid up for two years.

Out of there within 15 minutes and the Jeep is still working well!

So I go to doctor on Friday, my semi-annual checkup for having sludge for blood and old leaded iron blood vessels filled with placque to push it through. I have had a quadruple bypass ten years ago and this past year had two leg stents to put in.

Now I knew I’d lost weight. One knows if they lose weight over ten pounds and that’s where I figured I was at. Of course all the medicos tell me to lose weight because everyone needs to lose weight, right?

I never, ever, not in 50+ years, look or stand on a scale. I know it makes me a bit nuts but for so many years I’ve been obsessed with my weight so I tell the medicos weighing me not to tell me what it says, I don’t want to know.

Now the doc will, sometimes, mention I’d gained or lost a few pounds but I don’t want to talk about it at all.

So the doctor, the Cardio Vascular guy young enough to be my grandson and looking almost exactly like that Autistic kid doctor on the new show, walks in the office, slams down a pile of papers on his desk, smiles at me and says: “You lost 26 pounds”.

You could have knocked me over with a feather. Like I said, I knew I’d lost weight but wow, 26 pounds?

Also, my blood pressure came in at 113/63, all of my labs were great and truthfully folks that leg operation opened up the art of walking without pain for me and I feel pretty good. Doc was happy for my health.

Way I feel folks, I am the recipient of good American medicine. I’ve gotten good care, the most modern of tests and measurements. I think I pay entirely too much for my co-pay but I am good at self-discipline….self-control….IT’S FREE!

Finally, yesterday I drive in to the ATM drive thru. There was a car in front of me so I remain behind the line as indicated. The car drives off and I pull in front of the machine and there’s a $20 bill waving from the place where the money is delivered, snagged and about to go flying away.

Of course I grabbed it. I looked at the car who the money belonged as it pulled out onto the highway and roared down the road.

Now I suppose I could have taken the money inside the bank, turned it in. They could have checked the customer before me. But first, it didn’t occur to me and second, it would have been an ordeal to drive all around the bank, get out and leave the kitten, very, very bad kitten, in the car as I’d been bringing him home from the Vets.

Anyway, I held on to the $20 and now it is mine.

I scratch my head over last week but at least I know that life can be sparkling with pleasant surprises.

Now about this FISA warrant.

Barack Obama’s name is on the FISA memo, that’s the biggest piece of news.

Of course I don’t know this. I speculate.

But there’s the big debate. Do we destroy the reputation of America’s first elected black president?

This is why everyone, including Jeff Sessions, is mum about so much of this.

They don’t want to sully or cast aspersions upon America’s first President of color, he with perfectly creased pants, a smooth voice, handsome and will lie without blinking an eye.

Anyway, that’s my theory on the FISA memo.

It makes Obama part of all the cheating on American citizens but we all know that the Obama administration paid no attention to rules.

Brillinat piece bud and below is now what needs to happen:
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What needs to happen is that Republicans need to ask President Trump to release the memo that explains just how corrupt the system was under the obma/jarrett regime and then go after all these criminals who still have a huge base only a few miles from the White House.
Once the president is formally asked by congress he can order the four page memo released it should happen and happen soon.
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/republicans-rally-for-public-release-of-memo-on-fisa-abuses/article/2646412

Republicans rally for public release of memo on FISA abuses
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Republican lawmakers are calling for the public release of a memo they say contains revelations about U.S. government surveillance abuses after the report was made available to all members of the House.

The House Intelligence Committee on Thursday approved, by a party-line vote, to make the four-page memo available to all members of the lower chamber.

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Several Republicans, unable to say more about the memo, have rallied for its release to the general public, in some cases using a “ReleaseTheMemo” hashtag on social media.

[Twitter accounts linked to Russia are giving #ReleaseTheMemo a big boost]

Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, said he read the memo and implied there was some sort of bias in favor of Trump’s 2016 Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton.

“I have read the memo,” he tweeted. “The sickening reality has set in. I no longer hold out hope there is an innocent explanation for the information the public has seen. I have long said it is worse than Watergate. It was #neverTrump & #alwaysHillary. #releasethememo.”

“You think about, ‘Is this happening in America or is this the KGB?’ That’s how alarming it is,” Rep. Scott Perry, R-Pa., said, according to Fox News.

[Edward Snowden calls for public release of FISA abuses memo]

Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., called for the public release of the memo’s information “to preserve our democracy.”

“The House must immediately make public the memo prepared by the Intelligence Committee regarding the FBI and the Department of Justice,” Gaetz said in a statement. “The facts contained in this memo are jaw-dropping and demand full transparency. There is no higher priority than the release of this information to preserve our democracy.”

Gaetz, who has previously called for the removal of special counsel Robert Mueller, said there could be “major changes” for people working in the DOJ and FBI as a result of the memo’s release.

On Fox News Gaetz went further, saying he believes people could “go to jail” due to the contents of the memo and the Mueller-led investigation, which is examining possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin, is “a lie built on corruption.” He also said it became clear to him why Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., recommended the Justice Department criminally investigate the author of the Trump dossier, former British spy Christopher Steele.

Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan and North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows called the memo “alarming” and “shocking,” respectively.

“Part of me wishes that I didn’t read it, because I don’t want to believe that those kinds of things could be happening in this country that I call home and love so much,” Meadows added.

The Washington Examiner’s Byron York reported Thursday that no copies of the report were handed out to House members, but rather a copy would be made available for them to read in a secure room in the Capitol.

Members are not allowed to take the report out of the room.

Jordan explained on Fox News the process for releasing the memo.

“Here is the process: Chairman [Devin] Nunes in the Intelligence Committee in the House he can he bring the committee back together. They can have a vote. If the majority of the committee votes to release these documents, the executive branch gets a certain amount of time to review them. If the executive branch gives the thumbs up they go public,” he told Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “This could happen real quick. Chairman Nunes is committed to getting this information to the public.”

Meadows asked House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., to authorize a vote on releasing the memo, and Ryan chose to defer to Nunes to decide, Politico reported Thursday.

I did used to listen to baseball on the old AN/BRD-7 via AFRTS

Mulvaney is fantastic at handling the presstitutes & explaining things - glad to see him out there.

Chris Coons, a big zero.

But I do adore Mick Mulvaney. Here’s a guy that tells it on point and did you know he was a big Rush Limbaugh fan?

“Here is the process: Chairman [Devin] Nunes in the Intelligence Committee in the House he can he bring the committee back together. They can have a vote.
If the majority of the committee votes to release these documents, the executive branch gets a certain amount of time to review them. If the executive branch gives the thumbs up they go public,”
he told Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “This could happen real quick. Chairman Nunes is committed to getting this information to the public.”
Meadows asked House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., to authorize a vote on releasing the memo, and Ryan chose to defer to Nunes to decide, Politico reported Thursday.

Why the hell is Ryan passing the buck,hes had nothig but stellar good press for weeks now and this is how he responds b passing the buck?

I wanna know why Ryan passed the buck,why would he do that?

Why do the troops want to watch a bunch of spoiled players who hate them?