Posted on 01/07/2018 9:41:41 AM PST by T-Bird45
Axel Galvez had a deal: $7,500 for five untraceable semiautomatic rifles. And he had a buyer: a felon who planned to ship them overseas. Now, he just needed weapons that would be invisible to regulators.
To avoid background checks, Mr. Galvez bought rifle parts, then assembled the five guns at the Los Angeles machine shop where he worked. He offered to build his buyer 100 more for $130,000.
An underground gun-making industry that enables criminals to elude background checks and bypass gun regulations is creating a growing trade of ghost guns, weapons that cant be traced by police, authorities say.
Mr. Galvezs buyer turned out to be a government informant; the 36-year-old machinist pleaded guilty in November to unlawful firearms manufacturing and dealing, according to court documents.
Ghost guns have been in the spotlight since a Northern California man, who was prohibited from possessing firearms because of a restraining order, killed five people in a November rampage using semiautomatic rifles that he made himself, police say. Other gunmen have employed the weapons as well. In 2016, a Baltimore man fired at police with a homemade AR-15, and Santa Monica shooter John Zawahri used a ghost gun in his shooting spree that killed five in 2013.
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LOL!
Now that is a good one...
It’s already illegal for one person or group to make them with an intent to sell them. Making more than a very few of them without serial numbers will get attention and an investigation.
Making one or a very few of them with no original intent to sell them is said to be legal, and that’s of no use to criminals or antagonistic foreign interests. So making another law against making your own weapon with or without a serial number won’t be of any help to law and order.
Here’s what’s happening in practicality. Generally, criminals aren’t technically inclined. They’re lazy minded and uneducated. But if it becomes too easy or attractive for *many* of them to make many weapons, they’ll produce them for evil purposes and make trouble for everyone. So at least make it a challenge for the technically inclined and keep it that way.
Apparently "ghost guns" don't help you get away with a crime any better than factory-made guns or all of these guys would have gotten away and no one would know their names.
I want a piece of metal that identifies itself as a AR15 lower
OK, I thought they always rattled. Never shot one myself. Besides, I was talking about DIY forged (literally) parts to make one piece at a time, or a few, not machine manufactured weapons. But some of these shops are big, with master craftsmen who can turn out terrific AKs or whatever, they just have to have an example to start with. I’m talking Kabul and sh!te, right?
I’m not familiar with building your own AR, but your comment leads me to ask this...
The stripped lower receiver has, I think, a number on it... correct?
This seems to make it not a ghost gun. Are their lower receivers that do not have numbers?
You can buy a jig setup and a blank aluminum billet and machine your own. In CA this year, you will have to apply for an SN# for it.
FYI, these are 80% lowers. Here’s a 2015 question answer:
While it is 100% legal to complete and build your own AR 15 on an 80% lower receiver without any type of serialization or registration, one should be aware of a few facts. First, your firearm cannot be traced in the event it is lost or stolen.Jun 4, 2015
And remember in CA this year you will have to apply for a number.
I’ve always wondered, if I live in Texas or Florida, and legally buy guns, then move to California, or New York, etc. I have to sell them now?
Thanks FRamigo.
Sell you pieces...perhaps.
IT’S a scary thought.
Magazine capacity...
‘Assault weapons’...
Ammo....
Who knows what hoops You will
Be forced thru to Keep your equipment.
Guns are rather simple devices, after all.....always wondered if it occurred to the gun grabbers that people would just make them if they couldn’t buy them.
What is to stop a person from taking one of these receivers and putting any random number on it? Maybe built twenty,all with the same number.
I would imagine his conscience is just fine.
I would also imagine he’s going to have some problems in the next life, though.
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