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Sessions made ‘cataclysmic mistake’ with marijuana policy change, says ex-Trump adviser Roger Stone
The Washington Times ^ | January 6, 2018 | Andrew Blake

Posted on 01/07/2018 6:40:30 AM PST by MarvinStinson

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To: RipSawyer
It has been decades since I smoked pot so maybe things are different now but I have never thrown up or seen anyone else throw up from pot usage.

I don't think today's pot is the same as the pot we grew up with a few decades ago.

121 posted on 01/07/2018 8:31:08 AM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: MarvinStinson

Is he now Roger Stoned?


122 posted on 01/07/2018 8:31:37 AM PST by Angels27
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To: MarvinStinson

“Washington serves as an eye-opening case study for what other states may experience with road safety after legalizing the drug.”

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WA had the 7th lowest rate of traffic fatalities among the states in 2016.

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/general-statistics/fatalityfacts/state-by-state-overview


123 posted on 01/07/2018 8:31:41 AM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Parmy

“The desired effect is that the state politicos want the money that this generates and to hell with the consequences.”

Then why has no legislature legalized? The 8 states that have legalized have all been by ballot. Politicians are dragging their feet.


124 posted on 01/07/2018 8:36:32 AM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: All

Huge mistake, the cat is out of the bag, people know that Marijuana is not a significantly harmful substance and will continue to use it. There’s absolutely no way for Trump to stop it without sending in the military to CA (don’t expect local help) to declare a literal war on weed (eg. shooting growers and sellers, sending users to gitmo). Don’t know what this guy is thinking, medical marijuana was passed in CA in 1996, now it’s time to change policy 22 years later?


125 posted on 01/07/2018 8:40:43 AM PST by CaliGangsta
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
The essential question with respect to Sessions is: does anything he's (not) doing actually make sense?

Yesterday, and then today, the world had yet another opportunity to be entertained by the VSG (very stable genius).

Now, how does that type of brash, bold, unique approach - which, truthfully, no one has ever seen before - comport with a subordinate in the context of "sleepy Sessions"?

Answer: it doesn't.

126 posted on 01/07/2018 8:41:20 AM PST by semantic
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To: Sacajaweau

“They are appointed by the AG. The criteria is that they be licensed in the state they will practice in. They are not free to make up the law based on public sentiment in their state as you suggest.”

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Better tell the US Attorney for CO, who was appointed by Sessions =>

“U.S. Attorney for Colorado: No changes on marijuana enforcement”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3619532/posts


127 posted on 01/07/2018 8:43:50 AM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: MarvinStinson

“Stone parrots the straight Soros, pothead talking points.”

Only according to the truly ignorant, the willfully ignorant, nanny-state supporters & FR trolls.


128 posted on 01/07/2018 8:45:27 AM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: MarvinStinson

This fits precisely with Rosenstein’s tweet.


129 posted on 01/07/2018 8:46:54 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Ken H

What percentage were caused by marijuana?

Did your Soros agenda propaganda omit that?


130 posted on 01/07/2018 8:52:01 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Spok

That is a fair point. Thanks.


131 posted on 01/07/2018 8:52:23 AM PST by babble-on
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To: TheStickman

Sickman is ignorant of the Soros drug “legalization” propaganda

and the fact that Sickman and Roger Stone are parrots of the Soros drug “legalization” propaganda


132 posted on 01/07/2018 8:54:41 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Thibodeaux

You have it correct - there is no crusade. We are a nation of laws and the fact remains that the legislature (congress) has still made marijuana illegal. Sessions did not direct DEA or other Federal law enforcement to target marijuana - he put such decisions back at the district level and rescinded the Cole memo, which was another DEFACTO legislation by the executive branch.

It’s all about pot to the supporters, but consider that the same people oppose the amnesty that came about, absent legislation, for illegal immigrants using the same tactic - i.e. - “you will not enforce the law.”

We MUST get our house back in order. If the American people want legal pot let the legislature legalize it. Until then, we have an inconsistent mess and states that have legalized it in some form are only interested in taxes and not enforcing their own laws so marijuana cultivated in Washington is being pushed out of state to other states that do not want to legalize it or even other nations (WA pot is going to Canada). In short, it is a mess.

It is about the rule of law - not the emotionalism of pot for the supporters. If a licensed grower is selling pot out the back door with no taxes or regulation paid to the state it should be prosecuted. In order to have the rule of law folks we HAVE to enforce the law and if we don’t like it change it.

Marijuana, illegal immigration, Hillary’s emails - the law should apply equally to all, right?

I do not think marijuana is the panacea many around here do, but I don’t really care about it. I won’t partake of it, but I do partake of the law and we cannot continue this pattern of selective enforcement because it is corrosive and leads to “too big to fail” and “too big to jail.”

Some of you must take off the blinders and recognize the truth of this. If you want to smoke - carry on, but using a memo from the executive branch to rescind a law from the legislative branch turns our republic into a dictatorship no matter who is in office.


133 posted on 01/07/2018 8:58:27 AM PST by volunbeer ("I will appoint a special prosecutor to look into your (Hillary) situation" - Trump - we are waiting)
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To: MarvinStinson

Soros has taken over the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety?


134 posted on 01/07/2018 8:58:27 AM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: volunbeer

“Marijuana, illegal immigration, Hillary’s emails - the law should apply equally to all, right?”

Two of those three are legitimately based on the Constitution and don’t violate the Tenth Amendment. MJ prohibition at the federal level is based on the fraudulent Commerce Clause.

Should we support fedgov usurpation of state powers?


135 posted on 01/07/2018 9:04:22 AM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Ken H

Soros has taken over many state governments with his “Secretaries of State” program”—ask Governor Gregoire of Washington and Senator Al Franken of Minnesota about the effects of that.

Now Soros is spending millions on single state Attorney General elections.

You would be surprised at the extent of his network.


136 posted on 01/07/2018 9:05:23 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Artemis Webb
Cataclysmic could be applied to not pursuing jOkeass and Hitlery to the pokey
137 posted on 01/07/2018 9:08:21 AM PST by depressed in 06 (60 in '18.)
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To: MarvinStinson

So has Soros taken over the IIHS, as you claimed?


138 posted on 01/07/2018 9:10:38 AM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: MarvinStinson

These threads all seem to align the same way. But the most disturbing are those who post that really don’t accept the conservative view here.

One can argue that pot is bad. There are several studies that point to that. One can argue that pot is good. There are new emerging studies that point to that. By the same token, anything in excess is bad regardless of the good and bad.

What folks here — on this particular forum — shouldn’t be able to argue is that — regardless of your position on pot itself — the laws that were used to implement its prohibition, including the 1937 Marihuana Act and the 1970 Controlled Substances Act, were derived and invented on very shaky Constitutional grounds. This is especially obvious when looking at what it took to prohibit — and make available again — alcohol.

You don’t have to be a pro-pot person to understand why this should and must be a State issue. Constitutionally, the Federal government has no right in this realm, unless they take the step of creating an Amendment that would override the boundaries of the 10th Amendment. And no, the Supremacy Clause should not apply here, as a strict reading of that clause states very clearly that it only applies to laws “made in Pursuance” of the Constitution — not laws outside of its purview.

Congress does need to act, but not to enforce it’s wrongly-derived law, but to fix it by passing it back to the States.

It is likely this will go to the Supreme Court with so many States now on board. I’m hoping that the Originalists on the court will rule with the Constitution, and not jump through hoops (as Roberts is want to do) to come up with some vaporous reason to keep Federal prohibition in place.


139 posted on 01/07/2018 9:15:13 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: Ken H

As loathe as I am to give any federal agency more powers, I honestly think the only sensible action is to fold marijuana growing and cultivation into the BATF with limits on THC content and leave it to the states (and localities) to regulate distribution and sales.

Not doing so risks a case coming before SCOTUS and their rightly deciding that prohibition requires constitutional amendment which would be far more problematic for the rest of the schedule 1 prohibited drugs.

And thankfully, there’s enough court precedent to make overturning convictions problematic for previously prosecuted marijuana offenses with the switch to regulation vs a SCOTUS finding.

Do I want marijuana sold at the corner store? No. But rolling it out of the FDA and putting it into BATF solves an incredible number of problems and while still iffy on constitutional grounds, at least we wouldn’t suddenly find us paying for people’s joint prescriptions.

I’ll just have to live with gagging on the odors of the stinky weed when walking the dog. Least one positive thing about rolling it into the BATF is that we can stop pretending it is legitimate drug; yes, it can have some useful uses. So can alcohol and tobacco.


140 posted on 01/07/2018 9:24:39 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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