Posted on 01/05/2018 12:07:18 PM PST by DoodleDawg
Two South Carolina lawmakers want to erect a monument on the State House grounds to African-Americans who served the state as Confederate soldiers. But records show the state never accepted nor recognized armed African-American soldiers during the Civil War.
“In all my years of research, I can say I have seen no documentation of black South Carolina soldiers fighting for the Confederacy,” said Walter Edgar, who for 32 years was director of the University of South Carolina’s Institute for Southern Studies and is author of “South Carolina: A History.”
“In fact, when secession came, the state turned down free (blacks) who wanted to volunteer because they didn’t want armed persons of color,” he said.
Pension records gleaned from the S.C. Department of History and Archives show no black Confederate soldiers received payment for combat service. And of the more than 300 blacks who did receive pensions after they were allowed in 1923, all served as body servants or cooks, the records show.
Confederate law prohibited blacks from bearing arms in the war, records show, until that edict was repealed in 1865 at the very end of the conflict.
That repeal resulted in a handful of African-American units in states such as Virginia and Texas. But there were none in South Carolina, which prohibited African-Americans from carrying guns in the state’s service throughout the war for fear of insurrection, according to the archives.
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No. They smelled money, and they wanted it. They also were tired of listening to Northern liberals tell them how horrible they were as human beings, and so they just wanted to get away.
I think eventually a rapprochement would have occurred, but it would have taken awhile.
The Declaration of Independence had no legal standing in the Law of the United States. It is not part of any USC.
They fired because of the ships. Had Lincoln not sent those ships, they were going to wait Anderson out. Anderson had already started drafting an evacuation order.
If you read the details surrounding Beauregard's battery assignments, he held numerous batteries in reserve just for the ships. In fact, I believe I read that he held the bulk of his batteries in reserve to deal with the ships. He only attacked Sumter with part of his forces.
Once again, I will remind people that the Confederates knew why the ships had been sent, and it was only after the ships had been sighted rendezvousing at the designated point that Beauregard decided he didn't have any more time to give Anderson.
A man would have to be a fool to allow someone to attack him from two sides at the same time.
My bad, also discussing Morrill act with another participant. If the seven states had not seceded when they did the Morrill Tariff act would have never became law.
Not one of those states were effected by it. I doubt they collected the Morrill tariff rates in Charleston after Jan 1861.
Abrogated by independence. The entity that granted it no longer existed as the legal authority under which it was granted.
The land always belongs to the people.
In perpetuity in a court of law means exactly what it means.
Do the Cubans have a right to fire on the United States installation at Guantanamo bay because the lease for the facility was signed by a previous Government.
Lincoln issued the orders to fire long before the Confederates did so.
Once the Confederates realized that Lincoln really was going to have his ships shoot at them, they decided to go all in.
Reason why they fired is immaterial. The fact that they opened fire on a United States installation is enough to complete the act. The South started war.
produce a copy of Lincoln’s order to fire on Confederate forces at Charleston.
It doesn’t work that way and stupid people who try it invariably get killed.
So 700,000 died fighting over a pile of rock and brick in the Copper River?
Can we not just support the notion of "consent of the governed"?
The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments represent the imposed will of Washington DC. They do not accurately reflect the will of the people of those states at that time in history. Those amendments are a monument to the very thing they purport to oppose. Slavery.
Slavery through Washington controlled Guns.
Those amendments represent a mockery of the process, and therefore they should be regarded as tainted with illegitimacy. Though they may be intended to produce a greater good, the manner of their creation was wrong and tyrannical.
No
Why should it say anything about secession? The topic was clearly covered in full in the Declaration of Independence.
Agree. The 14th has been the most troublesome amendment in the Constitution precisely because it has given the courts an excuse to do whatever they wish. It is the most abused amendment in the Constitution.
If thee was a perpetual union clause in the USC it would have never been ratified.
fail to pay your property taxes and see how long the land belongs to your.
A standing army in the hands of a government placed so independent of the people, may be made a fatal instrument to overturn the public liberties; it may be employed to enforce the collection of the most oppressive taxes; and to carry into execution the most arbitrary measures. An ambitious man who may have the army at his devotion, may step up into the throne, and seize upon absolute power.
And:
The militia of Pennsylvania may be marched to New England or Virginia to quell an insurrection occasioned by the most galling oppression, and aided by the standing army, they will no doubt be successful in subduing their liberty and independency. But in so doing, although the magnanimity of their minds will be extinguished, yet the meaner passions of resentment and revenge will be increased, and these in turn will be the ready and obedient instruments of despotism to enslave the others; and that with an irritated vengeance. Thus may the militia be made the instruments of crushing the last efforts of expiring liberty, of riveting the chains of despotism on their fellow-citizens, and on one another. This power can be exercised not only without violating the Constitution, but in strict conformity with it;
If you don’t think it was about economics, why the blockade? Didn’t stop the guns from getting through, but it made certain that the money kept going to New York.
Good Lord above, is your supply of crap truly endless?
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