thanks to DJ Taylor post #17 for posting this - this is sooo worth reading...
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Marshall Kamena is a registered democrat and was elected mayor of Livermore, CA.. He ran on the democratic ticket as he knew a Bay Area city would never vote for a republican. He is as conservative as they come. He wrote the following.
Trumps lack of decorum, dignity, and statesmanship
My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if Im not bothered by Donald Trumps lack of decorum. They ask if I dont think his tweets are beneath the dignity of the office.
Heres my answer:
We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.
We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized collegiality as John McCain?
We tried propriety has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?
And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob
I dont find anything dignified, collegial or proper about Barack Obamas lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party. I dont see anything dignified in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I dont see anything statesman-like in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was articulate and polished but in no way was he in the least bit dignified, collegial or proper.
The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the 60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale.. It has been a war theyve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one the violent take-over of the universities till today. The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety. With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America s first wartime president in the Culture War.
During wartime, things like dignity and collegiality simply arent the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming. Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, I cannot spare this man. He fights.
General George Patton was a vulgar-talking. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.
Trump is fighting. And whats particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommels, hes shouting, You magnificent bastards, I read your book!
That is just the icing on the cake, but its wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, hes defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinskys Rules for Radicals a book so essential to the Liberals war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clintons senior thesis. It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.
Trumps tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after the fake media and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri Trump isolated CNN. He made it personal.
Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as the most powerful weapon of all. Most importantly, Trumps tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. They need to respond. This leaves them with only two choices. They can either go high (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve.
It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read propaganda) that keeps the Left alive. Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obamas close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wrights church. Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administrations weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administrations cover-up
So, to my friends on the Left and the #NeverTrumpers as well do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be collegial and dignified and proper? Of course I do. These arent those times. This is war. And its a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years. So, say anything you want about this president - I get it - he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I dont care. I cant spare this man. He fights for America!
17 posted on 12/31/2017, 2:41:45 PM by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
Beautiful.
but its wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, hes defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinskys Rules for Radicals a book so essential to the Liberals war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clintons senior thesis. It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.>>>>>>>>>>>>>
GREAT POST BITT .....I have been saying the same and more since 2008, tracing the history of Obama’s liberal fascism and Alinsky ideology, how Obama experimented with his fascism in Kenya( 2007), and then Obama turned it loose on America, race baiting, inflaming urban blacks etc.. President Trump knows exactly what he is doing.That’s why the left hates him so much, he is effectively destroying their “revolution.”
Every one in America should know the facts about Alinsky and how the democrat party has been transformed from liberalism to liberal fascism.
YES , LIBERAL FASCISM.
I applaud your post bitt, and have been YELLING the same thing you worte since 2008. (Obama actually experimented with his Alinsky strategy in Kenya in the 2007 election there which resulted in tribal warfare genocide. People call Obama the “magic negro” when in fact all he was and is doing is using tried principles of fascism itself: Such as interfering with local police investigations to disempower and divide police departments, and there are many others designed to destroy our institutions such as the military. police and economy )
Liberal Fascism, like any kind of fascism cannot survive the Winston Churchill method of combating fascism.
President Trump is following the Winston Churchill method of combating fascism which Churchill had used against the Nazis and Mussolini,with a great deal of glee, stay tuned to President Trump’s Twitter!
1) Illumination (thorough discovery)
2) Exposure ( Publication, name names)
3) Ridicule and Mockery ( Make fun of these individuals in public)
Please read this primer on Liberal Fascism in America:
The Quintessential Liberal Fascist:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
As you say, President Trump is dealing with liberal fascism and the Alinsky tribe just as he should.And all President Trump is using is Twitter? Just imagine if our president had his own dedicated News Network. Leftists heads would explode every 5 minutes, just like the recent one at Disney World’s Hall of Presidents, something that should become widespread as these fascists destroy themselves.
This is a VERY good thread, Fred Nerks is posting some very good info: (a nasty troll is active at least towards the end of the thread, no doubt a retread.)
Will the Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Ever Be Probed by Federal Authorities?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3612451/posts?page=482#482