Posted on 12/28/2017 1:07:10 PM PST by zeestephen
“State employees have a duty to notify regarding suspected abuse. That was one issue.” mewzilla
Correct, the law requires them to report it to their immediate superior, which Joe did. It was the head of athletics and the head of the University got fired for not reporting it to police. Joe did his job.
That's not true at all. There were several major teams interested in him before he retired. And Virginia almost hired him after he retired.
He knew when he retired. He knew that Sandusky was qualified to be a head coach somewhere.
If you read the transcript of Cardinal Law’s deposition, it was clear why he wasn’t jailed: He had “doctor’s notes” to return the pervs to active service. Our own government was turning them loose from prisons with the same notes at the time Law was; since then we’ve started “civilly committing” them (keeping them in prison after their terms are served because the shrinks feel they’ll do it again once free). The whole scandal was horrible, but I think there were much worse players than Law.
I'm a Paterno denier. Everything I ever read about him showed him immersed in decency. For decades he was the quintessential paragon of class. He was older than I am when he left the Penn State football program.
The only scandal ever to touch him was Sandusky's. This included decades of winning football when so many other winners were outed as liars and cheats.
It says right here that the idea of Sandusky transgressions were WAY, WAY beyond Paterno's imagination and way outside the range of his radar screen. If someone gave him proof of Sandusky's sin, Paterno would have led him to the authorities only after Sandusky was tarred and feathered.
I believe Paterno lived a life of decency, and would have been happy as a clam to have a football prodigy kid whom I could turn over to Joe Paterno.
When the only thing you know about a man is that he is honorable, it looks pretty classless and slimy to attach this kind of crime to him after he is dead or when he is too old to mount a justified defense.
I'm a Paterno denier. Everything I ever read about him showed him immersed in decency. For decades he was the quintessential paragon of class. He was older than I am when he left the Penn State football program.
The only scandal ever to touch him was Sandusky's. This included decades of winning football when so many other winners were outed as liars and cheats.
It says right here that the idea of Sandusky transgressions were WAY, WAY beyond Paterno's imagination and way outside the range of his radar screen. If someone gave him proof of Sandusky's sin, Paterno would have led him to the authorities only after Sandusky was tarred and feathered.
I believe Paterno lived a life of decency, and would have been happy as a clam to have a football prodigy kid whom I could turn over to Joe Paterno.
When the only thing you know about a man is that he is honorable, it looks pretty classless and slimy to attach this kind of crime to him after he is dead or when he is too old to mount a justified defense.
It's one thing to sit your QB in a bowl game because he misbehaved. Apparently, it's another thing to have your whole legacy washed away in a pedophilia scandal.
Agreed, Steve. It was always my impression that Paterno was an entirely decent guy . . . so decent that he could scarcely comprehend the evil that Sandusky was involved in. Whenever I saw Paterno on tv, he reminded me — physically, esp. as he aged — of my late father. And my father would have reacted in the same way; he wouldn’t have been able even to comprehend what Sandusky was accused of and would have shit it out.
By the way, did you read where Sandusky’s adult son has been arrested and charged with sexual assault of a minor? Evidently his victim(s) were teenage girls. Has Sandusky’s wife ever discussed her husband’s perverse practices? From all I read, she was well aware of what was going on but turned a blond eye, perhaps because it kept hubby from turning his attentions to her. Sandusky had a very odd childhood . . .
Oops! Apologies for the infelicitous typo. He would have SHUT it out.
Wow, so that’s what you think about pedophilia? Make some statutory notification, then move on and look the other way? And let the malefactor continue to use YOUR facilities? And remember, this isn’t anyone, this is the most powerful person at Penn State.
‘I don’t think so.’
that depends on how you’re defining ‘he knew’...of course he knew after the McQueary conversation, though obviously by this time Jerry was out of the football program...but Joe testified to a grand jury that he was not aware of a 1998 cop investigation of a mother’s complaint about Sandusky; this may be true, but in my opinion it beggars belief that someone notorious for micromanaging his program would be unaware that his top coach was being looked at by the cops...
‘Apologies for the infelicitous typo.’
almost as good as the wife turning a ‘blond’ eye to it...
A screen name like his may have deserved it........
As opposed to something classicly superlative such as Darksheare or Lakeshark.
(1) The NCAA agreed to distribute the entire $60 million fine paid by Penn State to organizations inside Pennsylvania. Previously, the NCAA was just going to keep the money or distribute it to anyone they pleased.
(2) The NCAA agreed to officially restore all 409 victories by Paterno.
(3) In 2016, Penn State officially held a commemorative ceremony to honor the 50th anniversary of Paterno’s first game as head coach.
(4) None of the three defendants were convicted or pleaded guilty to any felony charges. All three were convicted or pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor for child endangerment. The misdemeanor conviction against the former Penn State president is being appealed.
(5) One day before football assistant Mike McQueary spoke with Paterno about Sandusky, McQueary discussed the same subject with his own father and his father's best friend. His father's best friend testified under oath that Mike McQueary said nothing about witnessing a sexual assault, only that Sandusky and the boy were alone in the shower. The father's best friend was a local physician who is obligated under law to report any knowledge of child endangerment to authorities. The physician made no reports, and was never charged.
(6) The article does not mention that Mike McQueary, who has made conflicting claims about what he told Paterno, won a $12.3 million lawsuit against Penn State.
(7) Lawsuits filed by various Penn State Trustees have shown that Penn State paid out Sandusky-related settlements to at least two plaintiffs without making any attempt to fact check those complaints. Also, Penn State has made absolutely no attempt to recover a settlement from one plaintiff who clearly lied.
Anybody over the age of 70 comes from a different generation.
You don’t talk about negative things.
I do find it sad, that we (collective Americans) hold Hugh Hefner in higher regard than we do Joe Paterno these days.
Oh drats.
Was wondering if he’d poked his head back out to stroke his JoePa doll while assuring it we wouldn’t harm it as he defended Sandusky.. which got truly sad to watch.
The 1998 incident was investigated by a state child welfare agency and was officially investigated and documented by the Executive Director of Second Mile.
Neither the Director nor the welfare agency filed a Police report.
Not to the campus police. To the admin, Spanier and one other of the defendants, IIRC. Paterno never called any cops, campus or otherwise.
Hence the problem with the reporting requirement. What exactly constitutes compliance. Sigh.
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