Posted on 12/25/2017 7:03:30 AM PST by Lera
Yes, of course, today’s Muslim migrants are exactly like Joseph and Mary. Exactly. Jihad Watch reader Mark says, “Somehow I missed the part about how Mary and Joseph traveled to Bethlehem to plunder, rape and steal from the residents there…”
All of the jihadis who murdered 130 people in Paris in November 2015 had just entered Europe as refugees. Is it racism and xenophobia to recall that in February 2015, the Islamic State boasted it would soon flood Europe with as many as 500,000 refugees? Or that the Lebanese Education Minister said in September 2015 that there were 20,000 jihadis among the refugees in camps in his country?
Meanwhile, 80% of migrants who have come to Europe claiming to be fleeing the war in Syria aren’t really from Syria at all. So why are they claiming to be Syrian and streaming into Europe, and now the U.S. as well? An Islamic State operative gave the answer when he boasted in September 2015, shortly after the migrant influx began, that among the flood of refugees, 4,000 Islamic State jihadis had already entered Europe. He explained their purpose: “It’s our dream that there should be a caliphate not only in Syria but in all the world, and we will have it soon, inshallah.” These Muslims were going to Europe in the service of that caliphate: “They are going like refugees,” he said, but they were going with the plan of sowing blood and mayhem on European streets. As he told this to journalists, he smiled and said, “Just wait.”
So true.
While the Magi; themselves; went home a different way.
Perhaps it's that EVE thing.
She was NOT around to hear GOD's command about the fruit of that darned tree.
So either GOD spoke to her (which is not recorded) or Adam told her (which is not recorded).
What we DO know is that she managed; somehow; to ADD to the command:
Genesis 3King James Version (KJV)
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
(Do you notice that she DID know just WHERE it was??)
GOD did not state exactly where it was located...
Genesis 2:16-17
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Yes, Francis is the first Jesuit pope in the 500 year history of the Jesuit order.
It’s worked out so well, we may do it again after another 500 years.
Why do Catholics kiss the pope's ring?
Oh?
Now the ball is in YOUR court to prove!
Is he not ALLOWED to have his OWN opinions about such non religious things??
First one openly known to be.
Them Jesuits, though... they are sneaky. So who knows? ;^')
...or to touch it...
Some of you may have been 'taught' something different. It seems that experiences vary...
As regards the oft-quoted Mt. 16:18, note the following Early Church Fathers promise in the profession of faith of Vatican 1:
• Basil of Seleucia, Oratio 25:
'You are Christ, Son of the living God.'...Now Christ called this confession a rock, and he named the one who confessed it 'Peter,' perceiving the appellation which was suitable to the author of this confession. For this is the solemn rock of religion, this the basis of salvation, this the wall of faith and the foundation of truth: 'For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Christ Jesus.' To whom be glory and power forever. — Oratio XXV.4, M.P.G., Vol. 85, Col. 296-297.
• Bede, Matthaei Evangelium Expositio, 3:
You are Peter and on this rock from which you have taken your name, that is, on myself, I will build my Church, upon that perfection of faith which you confessed I will build my Church by whose society of confession should anyone deviate although in himself he seems to do great things he does not belong to the building of my Church...Metaphorically it is said to him on this rock, that is, the Saviour which you confessed, the Church is to be built, who granted participation to the faithful confessor of his name. — 80Homily 23, M.P.L., Vol. 94, Col. 260. Cited by Karlfried Froehlich, Formen, Footnote #204, p. 156 [unable to verify by me].
• Cassiodorus, Psalm 45.5:
'It will not be moved' is said about the Church to which alone that promise has been given: 'You are Peter and upon this rock I shall build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.' For the Church cannot be moved because it is known to have been founded on that most solid rock, namely, Christ the Lord. — Expositions in the Psalms, Volume 1; Volume 51, Psalm 45.5, p. 455
• Chrysostom (John) [who affirmed Peter was a rock, but here not the rock in Mt. 16:18]:
Therefore He added this, 'And I say unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church; that is, on the faith of his confession. — Chrysostom, Homilies on the Gospel of Saint Matthew, Homily LIIl; Philip Schaff, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf110.iii.LII.html)
• Cyril of Alexandria:
When [Peter] wisely and blamelessly confessed his faith to Jesus saying, 'You are Christ, Son of the living God,' Jesus said to divine Peter: 'You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church.' Now by the word 'rock', Jesus indicated, I think, the immoveable faith of the disciple.”. — Cyril Commentary on Isaiah 4.2.
• Origen, Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew (Book XII):
“For a rock is every disciple of Christ of whom those drank who drank of the spiritual rock which followed them, 1 Corinthians 10:4 and upon every such rock is built every word of the church, and the polity in accordance with it; for in each of the perfect, who have the combination of words and deeds and thoughts which fill up the blessedness, is the church built by God.'
“For all bear the surname ‘rock’ who are the imitators of Christ, that is, of the spiritual rock which followed those who are being saved, that they may drink from it the spiritual draught. But these bear the surname of rock just as Christ does. But also as members of Christ deriving their surname from Him they are called Christians, and from the rock, Peters.” — Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew (Book XII), sect. 10,11 ( http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/101612.htm)
• Hilary of Potier, On the Trinity (Book II):
Thus our one immovable foundation, our one blissful rock of faith, is the confession from Peter's mouth, Thou art the Son of the living God. On it we can base an answer to every objection with which perverted ingenuity or embittered treachery may assail the truth."-- (Hilary of Potier, On the Trinity (Book II), para 23; Philip Schaff, editor, The Nicene & Post Nicene Fathers Series 2, Vol 9.
How many catholics (and Prots as well) think that St. Peter is going to be at Heaven's Gate checking out whether they'll be allowed entry or not?
MAny will SWEAR that it is in the bible.
I am QUITE aggravating!!
Don't believe everything the wifey tells you?
A lot of times around here, it seems to me what you have to say sails right past lot of people. Unless having followed the various lines of discussion that have taken place over the years on the religion forum, they may not be equipped to catch the sometimes sly references you make?
That's one that should be fairly straightforward. No particular FR RF prior experience necessary.
Knowledge of Scripture (alone-- see? I worked that word in sideways -- just like Luther! boy, oh, boy he'd be so proud of me) can suffice -- while interestingly enough in this instance -- nothing else can.
They cannot validly receive the Eucharist.
Jesus says otherwise. And says it directly in the Bible.
You can dispute it all you like. The evidence is clear. There is only ONE visible church which was there at the beginning, and continued to present day. A lot of heresies have bounced off it over the years.
No, it says THE CHURCH will. But, as titular leader of THE CHURCH, it is a logical deduction that in some fashion, the Pope shares in that protection.
"And besides, if the Holy Spirit is not active in the church, then there can be no protection."
LOL. Go visit a charmismatic Catholic session. As a (fairly new) practicing Roman Catholic, I see plenty of evidence of the active presence of the Holy Spirit among my fellow Catholics.
Actually, it does. In the 60's, catechesis collapsed, so your knowledge of real church doctrines and teachings is probably on a par with my wife's (cradle Catholic from the same time period), and "up North", the Church was in a "circle the wagons" mode. Your experience and erroneous understanding is a result of both.
Fortunately for both my wife and I, she realized her lack of understanding, and began an extensive process of reading on what the RC church was really all about. Since I read about 4X faster than she does, and read everything that comes into the house, I was also exposed. End result...I converted about ten years back.
"You cannot say that it didn’t happen or excuse it away because the issue is that it WAS practiced, not whether it’s *official* church doctrine or whatever.
Sorry, but it "does" matter that it wasn't official church teaching (it was not). Bishops can err, priests can err (yours very obviously did), the Church as a whole cannot. As my observation of what WAS taught during the same time period in another area of the country shows.
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