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"The simple answer, which should be obvious to you, is: they don't need to tell the troops anything, if they do their jobs and advise commanders against issuing unconstitutional orders."

So, what are JAGS's trained to answer when commanding officers are ordered by an elected President and Congress to "go get civilian guns"??

"Only extreme corruption up & down the chain of command would ever put individual troops in the position of trying to decide if a certain order is, or is not, constitutional.

Given Obama's obvious success at infesting the command structure with leftists, such corruption certainly appears possible.

"So have we now established that there are no circumstances under which ordinary military troops should ever be put in the position of trying to decide if certain orders are, or are not, constitutional?"

Uh, no. The two situations are completely different. One is a violation and usurpation of the Constitution. The other is the legal fulfillment of the Constitution according to its own internal requirements.

"So tell us all, sir, what "position" is that, and why is it not "lookin' so good"?"

Yeah, it boils down to "what, me worry" (Alfred E. Neuman). Or to use your own thought "I don't wanna think about it", with codicil "and I don't want anyone else to either".

Wonder Warthog: "So, what are JAGS's trained to answer when commanding officers are ordered by an elected President and Congress to "go get civilian guns"??"

Not being a trained JAG myself, I couldn't answer, but common sense says it would be something like: "Sir, you can't do that, it's not constitutional."

Wonder Warthog: "Given Obama's obvious success at infesting the command structure with leftists, such corruption certainly appears possible."

Btw, you've not specifically mentioned Waco/Koresh but there's a modern day example which certainly did happen.
Today I don't remember details, except there were Zippers Clintoon, Janet Reno & Wesley Clark involved...
Ended very badly, but I don't think the issue there was confiscation of weapons...
And wasn't that the National Guard, not regular army troops?

Wonder Warthog: " One is a violation and usurpation of the Constitution.
The other is the legal fulfillment of the Constitution according to its own internal requirements."

I commend your willingness to draw that distinction, and agree.

Wonder Warthog: "Yeah, it boils down to "what, me worry" (Alfred E. Neuman)."

But I do worry, though not so much about your specific scenario.
What worries me is the bigger picture: that Obummer did his level best to turn "who we were" into "who we are", meaning good little multicultural, no borders, global warming alarmist socialists.
Now President Trump & most Republicans in Congress (sadly, not all) are doing their level best to reverse Zero's "achievements".
The Left's response has been open cultural warfare from the "main stream" media, academia, Deep State and Hollywood.
If that works in 2018 to wipe out Republican majorities, I'd say it's "Katie bar the door" -- open season on conservatives in general, Trump especially.

But for your scenario to play out, Dems would also need to stack the Supreme Court to, in effect, abolish the Second Amendment by decree -- similar to the overreaching of Dred-Scott and Roe v Wade (also strong Democrat SCOTUS majorities).
That would take time, I can't see it happening overnight, but now suppose all the illegal aliens suddenly received amnesty on condition they vote for Democrats?

It would mean we've lost, bigly, and the Second Amendment would not, by far, be the only one under assault.

So sure, be afraid, be very afraid, there's plenty of reason for it.

"Impeach 45"