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To: BroJoeK
"No it won't, because only one side will be obviously correct. The military cannot obey unlawful orders, period."

I repeat, how will they know which side's orders are legal??

At the beginning of the American Revolution, both sides initially thought they were "upholding the natural rights of Englismen" that the English Crown was overstepping. It wasn't until Parliament made it plain that the only way for the colonists to retain those rights was actual revolution advocated. Ben Franklin spent a LOT of time and effort to bring Parliament around, and ultimately failed.

What criteria will the individual service member use to decide?? The Nuremberg trials have already tossed out the "I was just following orders" defense.

I've not been in the military, so I have no background in the subject.

184 posted on 12/21/2017 7:50:44 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Wonder Warthog: "I repeat, how will they know which side's orders are legal??"

Which side??
How can there be "two sides"?
Was there a constitutionally approved election, were constitutional procedures followed as intended?
Then there is only one side, not two.

So, what, do you dispute the election, claiming it was "rigged" by "collusion" with who, Russians?
And you have legally valid data to support that, or just "collusion, collusion, collusion" propaganda on your brain?

So you dispute the election, your constitutional recourses are through Congress (impeachment) or the courts, which can overturn rigged elections & force new ones.
But suppose you don't really dispute the election (i.e., 2008) but dislike the results?
Well, your constitutional recourse is to form a new movement (i.e., Tea Party) and vote in more opposition party members to Congress, in two years.
In four years you can vote in a new president.

But what if, oh dear, you just can't wait even two years?
The perceived threat is sooooooooo great you just can't wait a moment longer, what will you do?

Well, remember, on your side you have your local & state governments, your representatives in Congress and a judiciary largely devoted to protecting the Constitution.
Minority Democrats have used those to slow down majority Republicans in such matters as the "Muslim ban" and sanctuary cities.
You can also use them to slow down the majority when/if ever the roles get reversed.

Wonder Warthog: "It wasn't until Parliament made it plain that the only way for the colonists to retain those rights was actual revolution advocated.
Ben Franklin spent a LOT of time and effort to bring Parliament around, and ultimately failed."

Exactly, and what remotely similar circumstances do you fantasize for the near-term future?

Wonder Warthog: "What criteria will the individual service member use to decide??
The Nuremberg trials have already tossed out the "I was just following orders" defense."

The US military will always follow lawful orders from the constitutionally valid federal government.

Wonder Warthog: "I've not been in the military, so I have no background in the subject."

I have and do, though it was decades ago.
To the degree the US military is not corrupted by the Leftist socialist agenda, you can depend on it to follow lawful orders from our constitutional government, and none others.

187 posted on 12/21/2017 9:49:28 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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