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To: fwdude; Travis McGee

Having just finished up Matt Bracken’s trilogy on just such a scenario, I was interested to see the following comment from the article Comments Section:

JohnFRoss • 9 hours ago

I am a novelist, and people I know often ask me my thoughts on the possibility of a full-blown, modern-day civil war in America, as opposed to a much more limited conflict such as the coordinated targeting of sellout politicians or corrupt government agencies.

I have thus far resisted embarking on such a tale, not because I cannot envision such an event happening, but because a good story requires a protagonist the reader cares about, set against a cunning antagonist, with the stakes set at tremendously high levels for the country as a whole. I haven’t been able to dream up a story like that set in the middle of nationwide chaos.

One novelist who HAS touched on the topic of modern civil war is retired Navy Seal Matthew Bracken, both in his novels and frequent blog posts. Bracken’s military background gives him a realistic assessment of “what if” scenarios that goes far beyond the idle musings of most armchair pundits.

In his blogs, a frequent question Bracken often asks us to ponder is “What happens when the EBT cards all turn up empty at the same time?” Schmutzli’s hypothetical take on a war between conservative, small-government patriots and the Grievance Class is one based in ideology, but ideology takes a back seat to immediate survival when faced with utter chaos.

One place Bracken agrees with the author of this piece is that the country will be divided along urban/rural lines, with those in the rural areas having vastly more of the equipment, skills, and capacity for food production that are useful in fighting any kind of war.

My own take is to agree with this assessment, and to point out that in times of peril, people must make snap decisions, and making the wrong decision just once means you die. The reality is that under such conditions, the people that survive are the ones who don’t take chances, so decision-making becomes one of identifying the enemy and killing him before he can get close enough to hurt you.

The elephant in the living room that no one wants to talk about is the likeliest method that the fighters in rural areas are going to use to quickly identify the enemy at a distance.

I’d bet a lot of money that they’ve watched thousands of YouTube videos, and have already made up their minds on this issue...


12 posted on 12/20/2017 9:42:59 AM PST by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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To: Qiviut

Spot on, Sir.


18 posted on 12/20/2017 9:44:45 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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To: Qiviut

The elephant in the living room that no one wants to talk about is the likeliest method that the fighters in rural areas are going to use to quickly identify the enemy at a distance.

______________

is he talking about color?

IF so, my poor son!


35 posted on 12/20/2017 9:56:36 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Qiviut

“The elephant in the living room that no one wants to talk about is the likeliest method that the fighters in rural areas are going to use to quickly identify the enemy at a distance.”


I’m betting that the elephant is significantly darker than average, and will be viewed through a rifle scope.


69 posted on 12/20/2017 10:33:08 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Qiviut

I would imagine the author of that comment wrote the book “Unintended Consequences.” It’s a good read.


91 posted on 12/20/2017 10:57:17 AM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Qiviut

Air power will dictate which side(s) wins a CW-2.


95 posted on 12/20/2017 11:02:34 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Qiviut
The elephant in the living room that no one wants to talk about is the likeliest method that the fighters in rural areas are going to use to quickly identify the enemy at a distance.

Well here, in the northern half of Michigan, where I have lived for 4 years, I can pick out a downstater in about five seconds at a gas station. And I don't always need their vehicle to do it.

107 posted on 12/20/2017 11:37:25 AM PST by MarMema (I now choose to live my life as a heterosexual married woman)
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To: Qiviut

John Titor claimed to be a time traveler from 2037. He described a future where the USA broke down and a civil war ensued. If you are interested in the possibility of a USA civil war, then I suggest you google him and investigate his story. It seems that your scenario is what will happen.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread124799/pg1

If you’ve happened to come across me on these boards you know that I’m curious in a little character called ‘John Titor’. For those of you that don’t know, let me give you a brief rundown.

A few years ago, a guy by the name of ‘John Titor’ surfaced on the internet claiming that he was a time traveller from the year 2036. Pretty extraordinary claim for anyone, yet he displayed that he has somewhat of an impressive scientific background and backed his story decently (complete with photos, diagrams, and a literal manuscript of statements/predictions that have either come true, been ‘misinterpreted’, or still waiting to actualize)

Out of the many predictions stated by John Titor, he claimed that the USA will be thrown into a Civil War beginning in 2005.

Earlier this year I had a thread suggesting that the onset of this war may be sparked at the Presidents inaugural speech. While there was civil unrest throughout the country, no Civil war occurred. However, 2005 is no where near complete.

Recently, I’ve been checking out the predictions of a few popular psychics. I was somewhat stunned to see that Titor’s prediction of war in 2005 has correlated with the predictions of popular psychics. This is not a confirmation of an imminent civil war in 2005. But it is damn interesting…

‘Civil war in the US in fall 2005.’

- Sean David Morton
Monday 15th November 2004
myweb.tiscali.co.uk...

‘World War III has already started and the climax to this is the scariest thing he has ever remote viewed.’

- Ed Dames
Saturday 1st January 2005
myweb.tiscali.co.uk...

While not exactly a Civil War, Titor claimed that a World War would eventually occur and that we will only realize this when it is far too late.

‘2008 another major terrorist attack. Major events that will define the next 36 years of human history..’

- John Hogue
Saturday 3rd July 2004
myweb.tiscali.co.uk...

Terrorist attack, this does not rule out a domestic terrorist attack which could be implicated in an American Civil War. Note, John Hogue states ‘Major Events that will define the next 36 years of Human History’. From those who have read up upon the ‘Titor-like future’ then you will agree that

1.) Something extreme happened
2.) It defined human history as we know it

Now Titor claims that he lives in 2036, if in 2008 there is an event that changes the next 36 years of history, then this change will ultimately begin in 2008 and end in 2044. All that we know of Titor claims is bound by the year 2036. We do not know what comes in the next 8 years. However we do know that in the year 2036, life is drastically different that what we are accustomed to.


170 posted on 12/20/2017 11:05:12 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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