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'Injuries and casualties' reported in Amtrak train derailment near Lacey
King 5 News ^ | 12-18-2017 | Jimmy Bernhard

Posted on 12/18/2017 9:12:29 AM PST by JME_FAN

A high-speed Amtrak train derailed onto Interstate 5 between Tacoma and Olympia Monday. Casualties and injuries are reported. Drivers are being told to avoid the area and expect alternate routes to be backed up.

(Excerpt) Read more at king5.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 3; amtrak; train; wa; washington; washingtonstate
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To: al_c; Rusty0604

They’re saying it was only going 18MPH. First reported at 80. Never know what to believe.


Judging by the pictures, it doesn’t look like it was going 80 at the time of impact.

I watched an eyewitness say he had never seen a train go that fast through that section of track before. Sounds like it was going too fast for those curves for whatever reason.

CGato


121 posted on 12/18/2017 12:32:50 PM PST by Conservative Gato (There are NOW 4 kind of LIES; Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and the Media.)
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To: angry elephant

“December 18 is the first day of five trains running ... off the rails”


122 posted on 12/18/2017 12:33:36 PM PST by JME_FAN
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To: bert

Highway patrol said no fatalities on the highway.


123 posted on 12/18/2017 12:34:08 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: bert

Ran over or fell on? How could the semi be on the tracks?


124 posted on 12/18/2017 12:35:28 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: bert

Illegal alien - wanna wager?


125 posted on 12/18/2017 12:36:48 PM PST by JME_FAN
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To: Enlightened1

Jack Posobiec’s Twitter page will not load at all on my computer. I wonder if Twitter is blocking it.

He was one of the first this morning to suggest sabotage by Antifa and post links.


126 posted on 12/18/2017 12:37:42 PM PST by Deo volente ("Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th." Donald Trump)
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To: Deo volente

Works okay for me. I'm on IE 11.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec

127 posted on 12/18/2017 12:45:39 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Ran over or fell on? How could the semi be on the tracks?

Fell on. The semi is under the bridge along with an upside down train car.

128 posted on 12/18/2017 12:55:38 PM PST by al_c (LIBERAL - Laughable Iconsiderate Blaming Entitled Ranting Anti-christian Loudmouth)
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To: al_c

Okay. That I understand. What I don’t understand is a report the train may have struck a truck on the track.


129 posted on 12/18/2017 1:00:57 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Conservative Gato

Yes it was going 81mph which is 2mph over the allowed speed of 79mph on the STRAIGHT sections of track. By “high speed” rail standards this is a relatively sharp corner and the pictures show that the lead locomotive kept going in almost a straight line went down a hill, stopped and the rest of the cars accordioned behind it going in all directions. This was a government run train with government employees running on government owned tracks.

On the train run that goes from Seattle to Eugene the state of Washington and the State of Oregon contract with Amtrak. The two states each subsidize 1 dollar for every dollar that Amtrak collects in fares. Even with this 2 to 1 subsidy this run still loses over $250 million dollars every year not even including capital expenditures.

Sound Transit, the government agency that owns these tracks has spent over $800 million dollars on them in the last 10 years with absolutely nothing at all to show for it... there has been no benefit to anyone other than the paychecks collected by government employees and government contractors.

This train was less than half full even on the “inaugural” run on this new route. Sound Transit has spent already spent many, many billions of dollars on local rail projects with no end in sight. This is just one more glaring example of extreme government waste.


130 posted on 12/18/2017 1:06:12 PM PST by fireman15
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To: Yaelle
"Putting a fast train on an old rail just sounds dumb."

It's Amtrak...

131 posted on 12/18/2017 1:13:33 PM PST by EEGator
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To: ilovesarah2012
Okay. That I understand. What I don’t understand is a report the train may have struck a truck on the track.

I think that was probably a mix up in the info that was released. Pretty sure they meant that this was the truck that was struck. Check on the pics over here ... they give a clearer picture of the mayhem.

132 posted on 12/18/2017 1:14:48 PM PST by al_c (LIBERAL - Laughable Iconsiderate Blaming Entitled Ranting Anti-christian Loudmouth)
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To: Conservative Gato

To save a handful of people four minutes on a mostly recreational train ride from Seattle to Portland... the State of Washington has spent nearly a billion dollars on track improvements so that they could use this “bypass” through a heavily populated area. They have also killed probably close to a dozen people because on the “inaugural” run the engineer ran the train off the tracks and has paralyzed transportation in and out of the state on the I-5, by far the most used route.

The engineer was probably under pressure to demonstrate that the billion dollars just spent would actually save the 4 minutes. People were noting that the run was not reaching its destination as quickly as was originally expected. It is just a billion dollars completely and totally wasted.


133 posted on 12/18/2017 1:16:30 PM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15

I have never heard of Amtrak owning any lines except some of the Northeast Corridor. I thought these were freight lines.


134 posted on 12/18/2017 1:21:02 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: caww
There are 3-4 other train cars on their tops in the woods at the scene.

Yeah, but it still looks more like damage from maybe 50mph or less. There's no way they took that bend at 80.

Then again, maybe they did ...


135 posted on 12/18/2017 1:21:39 PM PST by al_c (LIBERAL - Laughable Iconsiderate Blaming Entitled Ranting Anti-christian Loudmouth)
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To: fireman15

“...totally wasted”? No. There are LIB idiots who feel better now because this train line was completed using OPM (Other Peoples’ Money). They have a great warm feeling.


136 posted on 12/18/2017 1:21:49 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Yaelle

*sigh* it’s NOT “high-speed”. It is standard 80mph possible. It is not an Acela or anything like that, just faster than FREIGHT.

This is COMMON scenario all over the country. Except for their NE Corridor, Amtrak does not own tracks but contracts with private freight lines. They do fine with that.


137 posted on 12/18/2017 1:24:59 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Ok, sorry, I know NOTHING about railroads. Except for that old song. I thought maybe a corner was cut.


138 posted on 12/18/2017 1:28:44 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I have never heard of Amtrak owning any lines except some of the Northeast Corridor. I thought these were freight lines.

I had no idea that Amtrak owned any tracks anywhere. The bypass track this train ran off of are owned by Sound Transit a government agency. The mainline is owned by BNSF.

139 posted on 12/18/2017 1:31:51 PM PST by fireman15
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To: katana

It is not “high speed”. It is standard highway speed and therearound. Not even Acela. It is just faster than freight.


140 posted on 12/18/2017 1:33:19 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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