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My family has grieved enough over this. I have no reason to lie. I told the truth so that others on FR can benefit from true insight, and understand MS-13 will not be dealt with by deporting them.

The true insight is people down there are oppressed by their own government and their own people. Not my fault. And according to you, your two cousins were apparently MS-13 members or former MS-13 members. They reason I have no sympathy is because they've imported their way of life to my country. Get it?

Once again, if they catch them, unless they've committed additional crime on U.S. soil, and are not wanted for previous crimes here, deport them. If not, they go to the joint or are killed in the process.

And btw, its a bit odd that some who's worked in intelligence for 30 years would broadcast all this information about these types of relationships.

Not asking for sympathy for them. But I give families a wide berth because by and large, they can't control what other members do. It's called grace. I also know the same things happen right here. And it will get worse, particularly as they become the enforcers for the drug cartels. The bigger issue which goes straight over your head is this is coming to America and will not be excised unless Americans wake up. That was my original point, that is the gold, and I stand by it.

I am unfamiliar with any MS-13 member that has not committed multiple offenses. You RICO them, and open up cooperation to take down the syndicate, make it incredibly unattractive to join, and you put the hardcore members away. You are approaching it from a standard illegal alien standpoint. It isn't. It will take a disciplined, national effort to root them out.

Please don't opine on government oppression "down there." You already proved you see the world through Kansas eyes. Obama did more to oppress Hondurans than any of the two major parties in the last 20 years. And BTW, it was the people who freely elected the FMLN in power in El Sal, and Honduras freely elected Zelaya. What is this oppression "down there" you speak of? You have major cultural and geopolitical intelligence gaps.

I sent you the article in good faith. I didn't vouch for every other detail-- because I know more truth than what the article states. In fact, I never read the article before. Why would I? We dealt with it as a family, and sent cash for the funerals. The article doesn't offer anything other than they were killed together after being lured there by the kidnapping of their friend (yes, it affected more than one family- and in barrio life, everyone knows everyone). And not one stepped forward. You are the one that had so much distrust and wanted to see an article, so I obliged.

Typical American, you've been watching too many movies. And it shows. There is nothing secret about working in intelligence. I'm not a case officer. I tell people directly what I do-- there is nothing to hide. The government of Honduras is well aware I'm in intel. And several other countries for that matter. What are they going to do about it? Not a damn thing.

The difference between us is I live in the real world with real experience. You live in a fantasy constructed by ignorance.