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To: dragnet2
My family has grieved enough over this. I have no reason to lie. I told the truth so that others on FR can benefit from true insight, and understand MS-13 will not be dealt with by deporting them. That is laughable. You can take it or leave it, but you didn't have to insinuate I am lying. You are being a dickhead on a topic that would otherwise be profitable for you and others. You obviously do not know MS-13. I do. I am sorry that pisses you off.

As for the journalist for the article you supplied, I already told you that piece was not investigative journalism: it was a report from a police operation. Big difference. But no journalist is going to poke around in that colonia looking for a MS-13 link to a triple murder, which was essentially an internal enforcement hit. The fact that there has not been an article since ...kinda bares that out.

Better yet. Why don't you go down there and poke around, and ask questions as a free lance? It'd be a hoot. I'll get you some facts from my niece (yeah, the one who works for the Attorney General) and we'll wind your ass up and get you started. Check into the Maya Hotel in Tegucigalpa, and I'll have a list of 10 facts not previously printed in the media, and have it sent to the front desk.

The command and control of MS-13 is not a pyramid structure. There is no "one" leader, and they do not have absolute control over other sets. It's decentralized. You act like it's IBM. It is a confederation that acts collaboratively when it is in the best interests of each party, unless an order comes from a founder, and even then....it isn't precise. La 18 is the same way, but far less brutal.

I don't need translator software- I speak Spanish and I wasn't using the article as the only source. I am not dependent on any article as you are. I told you things that are NOT in the article because the journalist left obvious follow-up questions out. He is addicted to oxygen. When an entire community will not step forward, that is what we call in the intelligence field.....an INDICATOR of how much influence an organization has over turf.

And that is the end of the issue.

81 posted on 12/17/2017 6:57:48 PM PST by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: Salvavida
it was a report from a police operation.

It was published by the same exact media source. That would be the target. No?

82 posted on 12/17/2017 7:26:06 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Salvavida
it was a report from a police operation.

It was published by the same exact media source. That would be the target. No?

83 posted on 12/17/2017 7:26:06 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Salvavida
My family has grieved enough over this. I have no reason to lie. I told the truth so that others on FR can benefit from true insight, and understand MS-13 will not be dealt with by deporting them.

The true insight is people down there are oppressed by their own government and their own people. Not my fault. And according to you, your two cousins were apparently MS-13 members or former MS-13 members. They reason I have no sympathy is because they've imported their way of life to my country. Get it?

Once again, if they catch them, unless they've committed additional crime on U.S. soil, and are not wanted for previous crimes here, deport them. If not, they go to the joint or are killed in the process.

And btw, its a bit odd that some who's worked in intelligence for 30 years would broadcast all this information about these types of relationships.

84 posted on 12/17/2017 7:50:53 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Salvavida
I am not dependent on any article as you are.

I was using the article you provided as basis for my comment. And when I asked to see documentation, you stated, "You speak Spanish dickhead?" I had to explain to you it's easily translated to English on the Internet. Surprise! And you speaking Spanish does not impress me. When you speak 7 or more languages I might be impressed.

85 posted on 12/17/2017 8:03:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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