[Fhios]

You know what, It’s a pretty good assumption that if left unregulated the forests would eventually wiped out.

There are good business and bad businesses just like there is good regulation and bad regulation. Unscrupulous business methods are everywhere.

So yes, in a perfect world we would not need a modest set of rules and regulations and business, we do not live in a perfect world and I’m not supposing we ever will.

[rodguy911]

I went to a great college many years ago. One of the companys we studied was Weyerhauser that was in the tree harvesting business at the time. Don't know what they do now.

At the time they were growing ten trees for everyone they cut down.I don't know if that was typical for the industry but it was something I recall decades later.

[bray]

That is not a good assumption at all. That is leftist dogma, there is a better assumption if left to the lumber industry the forests and wildlife would be far healthier than they are now.

[Unrepentant VN Vet]

..It’s a pretty good assumption that if left unregulated the forests would eventually wiped out.

Assumption?

How about looking around for a fact or two?

Such as wandering past the ABSOLUTE WORST cases of clear cut logging you can find after those evil capitalists moved on and take note of the new trees and growth. Even if there wasn't any attempt at all to reseed.

Then, I'll run you by a few areas around Montana that have experienced the results of your enlightened regulations. (I'm certain Bray can show you the same thing around his place.)

Those fires that get started in trashy stands get so much fuel that they burn extra hot and fast and wind up sterilizing the ground as well as burning up trees and any wildlife that happens to get caught up in the mess.

That leaves what we've come to call Sierra Club clear cuts:

-Some burned up trees still standing around, waiting for the next thunderstorm to finish them off. (There always seems to be a bunch of lawyers go to their favorite judge to keep those capitalists away from even cutting scrap, y'know.)

-Lots and lots of fallen burnup. Same deal as the standing stuff.

-Some weeds and grasses, unless it gets too dry for the remaining soil (I guess I missed mentioning the soil erosion after the fire...) to even grow weeds.

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There's a place just like that North of where I live.

It's called Bull Mountain, the fire (it was called the Hawk Creek fire) happened in 2008.

Nothing much else (besides the occasional smaller Tstorm caused burnoff of surrounding trees) has happened around there for almost ten years now.

I'd *assume* that your regulations have done a first class job of "wiping out" that little bit of forest.

I just damn wish that was the only case.

[DanZ]

There are good business and bad businesses just like there is good regulation and bad regulation. Unscrupulous business methods are everywhere. So yes, in a perfect world we would not need a modest set of rules and regulations and business, we do not live in a perfect world and I’m not supposing we ever will.

Ok, not to pile on BUT - Lake Baikal used to be a Lake - Communist / government idiots who obliviously knew / know better gave us that mess in Russia

Beijing - Coal pollution unprecedented since at least the 1880s Dickens England - Communist / government idiots who obliviously knew / know better gave us that mess in - RED China

LA (not Lower Alabama) fires caused by Communist / government idiots who obliviously knew / know better gave us that mess because private property owners, CAPITALIST with a PROFIT motive are not to be trusted in your world