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Forgery 101: Beverly Nelson and Gloria Allred Both Presented ‘Notes’ as Roy Moore’s Own Writing
Breitbart ^ | 8 Dec 2017 | JOEL B. POLLAK

Posted on 12/09/2017 7:56:10 AM PST by Mr. Mojo

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To: precisionshootist

There was an article on FR two or three months back about a Texas slime ball lawyer either impugning Trump or threatening him. I reviewed the Texas bar code of conduct, found he had violated several provisions, and should be subjected to disciplinary action. I wrote a complaint to the TX bar stating that case. Their complaints are automatically directed to the subject attorney, so he saw my complaint.

The TX bar wrote me a month later. I was dismayed to learn they found his conduct didn’t rise to the level required for censure or discipline. Case closed.

The bar associations circle the wagons around their own.


41 posted on 12/09/2017 9:40:46 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Mr. Mojo

Hmm...so the case has moved from “It wasn’t forged” to “Only half of it was forged, but you can believe the other half.” Right. The amazing thing is that they’re still trying to put it over.


42 posted on 12/09/2017 9:42:08 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Great analysis. It is just frustrating how people can lie to others with no consequence whatsoever in today’s culture-—esp. when their profession is a “lawyer”.

I know our legal system was never built on John Austin’s utilitarianism, but on Objective Truth (God)-—but now it has “evolved” into this pragmatic, evil system of Austin’s which only obscures and twists and prevents the truth. And it is taught in law skools.

It is evil and destroying our culture-—what is left of it. As Cicero stated, Rule of Law is destroyed when it allows evil to be promoted and championed-—and now that is all our “just laws” do-—promote vice, sodomy, baby-killing, theft—using force of “law”. It is upside down system now and punishes virtue and promotes vice-—which is the system Allred LOVES. It will collapse culture as Cicero stated all unjust laws will.


43 posted on 12/09/2017 9:44:27 AM PST by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The biggest hit on the credibility of Moore’s accusers is not they they waited to complain - many people in their positions fear disclosure - but that all the disclosures came on the eve of an election, not the primary, after it was too late to take Moore off the ballot.

That said, there may be some smoke and a little fire in Moore’s past. But this was 30 - 40 years ago - thus only marginally relevant today.


44 posted on 12/09/2017 9:45:36 AM PST by theoilpainter
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To: Mr. Mojo

I’d like to see Breitbart sue Politifact.


45 posted on 12/09/2017 9:55:44 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

——the entire document is legally useless ——

but is the forged year book evidence of criminal activity?


46 posted on 12/09/2017 10:01:44 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Added blue ink writing (the "notes") is to right of the orange line:


47 posted on 12/09/2017 10:34:09 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Mr. Mojo
Yes but the part that Moore wrote wasn't a forgery and that is the part we are talking about, not the other part.

You need to stay with the seriousness of our charge and not let yourself get distracted by the legal niceties and the meaning of words.

It is unfair to call us liars when we were telling the absolute truth about part of the document.

See the Clinton rules on sentence parsing can be learned and practiced by anyone. You are warned that employment by a non-professional can lead to heads exploding.

48 posted on 12/09/2017 10:43:38 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: null and void
JUDGE Roy Moore should sue the living crap out of them.
Agreed, but I’d much rather Senator Roy Moore did it. ;-)

Not only should he sue any and all liars, much more importantly he should sue “the MSM.” Of course, “the MSM” is not a legitimate defendant - but “The Associated Press and its membership, joint and several liability” is a very good approximation.

The AP was found by SCOTUS to be in violation of The Sherman Anti-Trust Act (1890) back in 1945, and Sherman provides for triple damages. Sherman is a one-pager. It says in part,

"Every contract, combination in the form of trust or other- wise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is hereby declared to be illegal . . .

Any person who shall be injured in his business or property by any other person or corporation by reason of anything forbidden or declared to be unlawful by this act, may sue therefor in any circuit court of the United States in the district in which the defendant resides or is found, without. respect to the amount in controversy, and shall recover three fold the damages by him sustained, and the costs of suit, including a reasonable attorney's fee.”

IMHO the way to indict the AP of a Sherman violation would be to define “combination” using Adam Smith’s definition.
People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary. - Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations
The AP is a continual virtual meeting of its membership which comprises all major journalism outlets. This “meeting” - which has been ongoing since before the Civil War - is not about “merriment or diversion,” but precisely about the business of journalism - what is, and what is not, news.

The resulting “conspiracy against the public” systematically projects a negative image of society and, concomitantly, a positive image of government (anything negative about society ineluctably elicits an “there oughta be a law” response). The negativity toward society of this meeting of journalism is no secret to its membership, and yet all claim that journalism is objective. Since “the conceit that ‘negativity is objectivity’” is a good definition of cynicism, that meeting of journalism projects cynicism toward society - and concomitantly, naiveté toward government.

The conventional definition of socialism is “government ownership of the means of production.” Since ownership represents credit for the existence of something, an argument in favor of government ownership of something is an argument that the government deserves credit for that thing. It is faith in, or naiveté towards, government. This can only be justified by cynicism towards the ownership - the credit - which society normally assigns to people within society. Thus we hear, “You didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” This is true, but a half-truth.

I, Pencil is an article written in 1958 by Leonard E. Read. The burden of the article is how diffuse are the inputs to make a simple item like a pencil. Of course a particular company - Eberhard Faber, in the example instance - made the pencil. But Mr. Eberhard and Mr. Faber did not simply speak the pencil into existence; the company has to have buildings housing machinery, and workers to operate the machines. But beyond that, the Eberhard Faber workers have to have food, shelter, and normal amenities - including those required by their families.

And the same is true of the vendors who supply Eberhard Faber with the machinery they require, and all the obvious materials - wood, graphite, rubber, and the ferrule material and the enamel. All those vendors have their own equipment, workers, and supply chain. And in all cases the workers need food, shelter, and normal amenities. So although the pencil certainly does not exist without Eberhard Faber, society works together to make pencils - and everything else.

So, “You didn't build that? Somebody else made that happen?” Yes - but that “somebody else” was not government. The “somebody” was more like everybody - mostly very indirectly. It is not the government but society - as Thomas Paine points out in Common Sense a very different thing - which makes the pencil.

In short, the AP is a meeting of people of the trade of journalism which has long since become a conspiracy against the public (a.k.a., society). That conspiracy promotes unlimited government to destroy the liberty of the people. Precisely what the Democrat Party advocates. Not that they dare to say it out loud in so many words . . .


49 posted on 12/09/2017 10:54:55 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: null and void
I wouldn't be surprised, after Moore wins, that he doesn't sue Nelson, Allred and that first gal who claimed he called her on her bedroom phone. Her mom put the nix on the phone in the bedroom claim. She was lying too.

Can't wait to see Moore exonerated and then standing up to McTurtle and his co-conspriators in the Senate.

This guy in the "staid" Senate will make Ted Cruz look like a pussy cat.

50 posted on 12/09/2017 11:17:33 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
True they circle the wagons but only until they can't. They've been circling for Allred for sometime but I think her time has come.

Many big name lawyers have been disbarred. Allred will be next.

51 posted on 12/09/2017 6:56:20 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: marron

Mr. Mojo, another judge handled the divorce. All Moore did was dismiss it. Actually, all he did was have his clerk stamp his signature on the paper....


52 posted on 12/10/2017 12:39:00 AM PST by Nellie Wilkerson
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