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Mesa Police Shooting: Daniel Shaver Seen Crawling, Degging in Disturbing Video
CBS News ^ | 12/8

Posted on 12/08/2017 5:58:46 PM PST by nickcarraway

Brailsford orders Shaver, 26, to lay face-down in a hallway and refrain from making sudden movements - or risk being shot. He also orders a woman in the hallway to lie on the ground. Shaver is seen complying with the officer's order to put his hands on top of his head and cross his left foot over his right foot.

"Young man, you are not to move. You are to put your eyes down look down at the carpet you are to keep your fingers interlaced behind your head you are to keep your feet crossed," Brailsford says. "If you move, we are going to consider that a threat, and we are going to deal with it and you may not survive it, do you understand me?"

"Yes sir," Shaver says.

Brailsford then orders the woman to kneel, put her hands in the air and crawl towards officers. Officers then apparently handcuff her out of the view of the camera.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: danielshaver; donutwatch; leo; philipbrailsford; police; shooting; simonsays
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To: southern rock

“And that’s moment when the partner shoots you 7 times because you were “making a move”.

One night I was guarding some construction sites when real cops rolled up on me. I put my hands on the wheel, and kept them there. Cop saw my shotgun, I pulled my parka aside so he could see my rent-a-cop badge, he flashed “four” to his partner, and we chatted a bit.

I guess if I had been a cop-hating, white-hating slum rat I could have turned that into something through my own stupid actions. I chose not to. I think you have to display aggravated dumbassery to get yourself shot.


101 posted on 12/09/2017 11:32:08 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

If you had told me a story like this on a couple years ago, I would have called it an unrealistic exaggeration.


102 posted on 12/09/2017 11:32:50 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Leaning Right

“Anyone who disagrees with you should take a look at this short video first posted by suthener (post #76).”

I looked at it. What was I supposed to see?


103 posted on 12/09/2017 11:39:26 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

> I looked at it. What was I supposed to see? <

Either you’re funnin’ with me, or we are so far apart on this issue that any conversation would be of no value.


104 posted on 12/09/2017 11:48:15 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: tumblindice

The tattoos alone should have disqualified him.


105 posted on 12/09/2017 11:52:31 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: dsc; southern rock

> So, after roll call, when they were walking to their cars, one of them says, “Hey, Bubba, let’s murder us a n**ger today,” and Bubba says, “Ayup, that sounds like fun.” <

Well, the cop in question had “You’re f—ked” etched on the dust cover of his rifle. That seems not very different from the scenario you described above.

The etching is mentioned about half-way down in this article:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa-breaking/2017/12/07/philip-brailsford-verdict-daniel-shaver-killing/927052001/


106 posted on 12/09/2017 11:54:52 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: NorthMountain

“If you had told me a story like this on a couple years ago, I would have called it an unrealistic exaggeration.”

Consider that it is the fake-news evilstream misleadia that is pushing this narrative.


107 posted on 12/09/2017 11:59:19 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: nickcarraway

Unless I am missing something..it seems the officer barking the orders..wanted this guy to crawl with his legs crossed and then with his hands in the air?
I couldn’t do that sober.


108 posted on 12/09/2017 12:01:02 PM PST by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: Leaning Right

“Either you’re funnin’ with me, or we are so far apart on this issue that any conversation would be of no value.”

I’m old; the video quality sucks; I didn’t see anybody get shot.


109 posted on 12/09/2017 12:02:52 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Leaning Right

“That seems not very different from the scenario you described above.”

Men who go into harm’s way are prone to humorous bravado, which is what that is. To put it in Ebonics, “It don’t mean a thang.”


110 posted on 12/09/2017 12:07:13 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: SteveH

The one shouting the orders is not the shooter.

Second. There is a longer version...like 25 minutes long that is much more telling.

The cops got up to the hallway/room and didn’t have a damn keycard. Instead they send 2 team members down to the front desk to get it and call the room. Why call the room? Because they’ve been in the hallway yelling from 3 doors down for the woman to come out. Now, if this is a decent hotel they likely are only hearing muffled shouting in the hallway...not a swat team demanding them to come out of the room. This also means they had know idea who they were dealing with. No name, no idea for the reason he was there etc. In fact, if they had checked with the front desk and pulled the man’s record and found it to be clean, they may have approached this much more differently.

While difficult to see on the bodycam, it is clearly evident the poor guys shorts were making it difficult to follow the officer’s Simon Says demands.

Finally, in the longer video you here the woman telling the office escorting her out of the building...they shot an innocent man.

I agree when Shaver was initially laying down in the hallway officers had the best opportunity to approach him and arrest him for his crime of innocence. Requiring him to move/crawl in an awkward manner, which even a sober person not under-duress would have had trouble doing, was an extremely bad call on the part of the officers.

They threatened this man that if he even lost his balance and he tried to prevent injury from the fall ...they would kill him. Think about that for just one moment. Here you are barefoot in the hallway and your shorts are halfway falling down...and someone is telling you to cross your legs and crawl towards them? That’s just messed up!

Also the officer barking the orders left the United States and is hiding out in the Philippines.


111 posted on 12/09/2017 12:14:53 PM PST by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: dsc

> I’m old; the video quality sucks; I didn’t see anybody get shot. <

My apologies. I misunderstood. The video shows a man standing next to the driver’s side of his car. A cop orders him to produce his driver’s licence. The man turns back to his car to get it. The cop shoots the man numerous times (around the 0:45 mark).

I’m rather old myself. But the video was clear enough to me. Then again, I just got new glasses!

Are you sure you had the right link? Also, whoever submitted that video up put a big red ad box in it. Click on the upper right corner of the box, and the red box will go away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVnKxdMzEXM&app=desktop

The cop here got 12 years in prison.


112 posted on 12/09/2017 12:15:23 PM PST by Leaning Right
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To: dsc
Now you know what the cop was thinking?

After watching the video, I believe I do. But ultimately, it doesn't matter what he was thinking. It is what he did. He executed an unarmed man who was lying face down on the ground, begging for his life.

So, after roll call, when they were walking to their cars, one of them says, “Hey, Bubba, let’s murder us a n**ger today,” and Bubba says, “Ayup, that sounds like fun.”

The victim is white, and yes, the thuggish cop who was doing all the yelling, bullying, and I would call it torturing, told the victim several times that he intended to execute him. Watch the video. The victim knew it too. That is why he was crying. Because he knew he was about to be executed and there was nothing he could do to prevent it. It was already decided. Full premeditation.

113 posted on 12/09/2017 12:18:58 PM PST by southern rock
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To: dsc
I think you have to display aggravated dumbassery to get yourself shot.

Obviously you didn't watch the same video, I did.

114 posted on 12/09/2017 12:20:10 PM PST by southern rock
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To: Leaning Right

Okay, it was the wrong video. Don’t know how that happened.

IMO, the civilian was guilty of aggravated dumbassery.

I would have said to the cop, “It’s in the truck. Do you want me to reach in and get it?” And I would not have been shot.

Why was the cop convicted? Did he shoot again after the guy had his hands up? Or do we require cops to wait until a suspect actually comes out of the truck with the gun and starts shooting?

We’ve put cops in an impossible position. They are required to act like Mary Poppins while dealing with Mau Mau savages who are utterly without fear or remorse, and who will cheerfully ambush them and make them dead. And if the Mau Maus get dead, the cops go to prison.

Who would want to work under those conditions? If the quality of recruits has declined, who can wonder?

The problem we have is not cops “executing” Mau Maus; the problem we have is cops being *punished* for shooting them, when every cop in America ought to be shooting five gangsters a day until they are all gone.


115 posted on 12/09/2017 12:40:54 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

A man is dead. That’s not fake news. The inked-up gear queer who killed him is roaming the streets today. That’s not fake news, either.


116 posted on 12/09/2017 12:52:06 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: nickcarraway

Disgusting. This pig, and there’s no other word for him, should rot in prison.


117 posted on 12/09/2017 12:53:46 PM PST by dinodino
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To: dsc
when every cop in America ought to be shooting five gangsters a day until they are all gone.

Yeah ... who the hell needs laws ... courts ... trial and conviction before punishment? Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.

118 posted on 12/09/2017 12:55:50 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: dsc
Or do we require cops to wait until a suspect actually comes out of the truck with the gun and starts shooting?

Wow, what a concept. Cops shouldn't shoot people who aren't threatening? Crazy

119 posted on 12/09/2017 1:02:42 PM PST by southern rock
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To: NorthMountain

“A man is dead. That’s not fake news. The inked-up gear queer who killed him is roaming the streets today. That’s not fake news, either.”

However, the version of those events that we have been handed is very likely to be, at least in part, deception or invention.


120 posted on 12/09/2017 1:04:46 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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