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Clarence Thomas facepalm: Oral arguments for Masterpiece Cakeshop
The American Thinker ^ | 12/06/17 | Erin Mersino

Posted on 12/06/2017 8:43:11 AM PST by pgkdan

Yesterday morning, I had the honor of attending oral argument before the United States Supreme Court. The case being argued was Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, commonly referred to as the "gay wedding cake case."

The case involves a humble Christian baker, Jack Phillips, in the sleepy town of Lakewood, Colorado, who received a phone call one day to create a custom wedding cake for two men attempting to marry each other. Phillips responded by inviting the couple to purchase any goods in his bakery while declining to create a custom cake for the celebration because his Christian values forbid him to promote an understanding of marriage that includes same-sex couples. Five years, a plethora of fines and penalties from the State of Colorado, and several boycotts of his bakery later, the state is still forcing Phillips to make custom cakes for these same-sex celebrations, and Phillips finds himself fighting in the nation's highest court for his First Amendment freedoms of speech and religious exercise. The couple who called Phillips ended up receiving their cake for free from a different baker. The cake was a replica of the rainbow flag to celebrate the gay rights movement.

***SNIP***

...Then Justices Kagan and Sotomayor administered a pop quiz, naming foods, art, buildings, and creative enterprises and demanding to know if the objects or general categories of study they posed are expression and, therefore, protected speech under the First Amendment. At one point, Justice Thomas covered his face with his full palm at the incomplete responses and failures to get to the relevant.

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To: Spruce
Put a paragraph in the agreement, “A portion of the proceeds will be donated to the American Family Association.”
21 posted on 12/06/2017 9:05:51 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: Bob434
Are we a nation that forces religion to act in ways that violate their religious belief or not?

As a Christian I strongly oppose 'gay-marriage' because it is a mockery of God's law and is plainly against His established order. To participate in such a travesty would be to act contrary to God's Will and that is sin. Put simply no government has the right to force me into sinful behavior.

22 posted on 12/06/2017 9:07:43 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Bob434
"That is the whole crux of the argument right there in a nutshell- all the other ‘promoting’ ‘artistic expression’ etc has nothing to do with the case-"

I think the free speech issues are very legitimate and they buttress the even more powerful "free exercise" of religion issues. Please note, if the baker loses then the free exercise clause of the US constitution has been eliminated. Given the arguments of the left over the last few years (ie "hate speech"), could free speech be far behind?

23 posted on 12/06/2017 9:09:48 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Dilbert San Diego

True ‘nuff — a brotherhood, etc. cake would not be a problem.

Well I hope and pray Kennedy finds a set of straight cojones that day.


24 posted on 12/06/2017 9:10:31 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Bob; mlo

Thanks to both you and mlo


25 posted on 12/06/2017 9:13:20 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Spruce
I’d make the cake, all right. It would be a complete disaster and ruin the whole wedding.

No need to be a meanie and make a bad cake - make a great cake.

And use ingredients that they know well and enjoy.


26 posted on 12/06/2017 9:13:34 AM PST by C210N (It is easier to fool the people than convince them that they have been fooled)
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To: circlecity

The USSC yielded when FDR threatened to pack it. We’ve got a similar possibility with Donald Trump. Kennedy may well find a package with some straight balls in it and a note saying “These are for you. Wear them well. Sincerely, Donald.”


27 posted on 12/06/2017 9:14:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: pgkdan

The gay couple are not ‘victims’ here, they are gay activist bullies. The apparently checked with about 20 other bakeries that were more than happy to make a cake for them, until they found one that wouldn’t.

Who spends that amount of time to find someone NOT TO bake them a cake?

I would love to hear that phone call- they probably gay-ed it up nice and disgusting for him, who needs to go to such detail about their gay marriage on a phone call?


28 posted on 12/06/2017 9:16:35 AM PST by Mr. K (There is no consequence of repealing Obamacare that is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Bob434
Here's the line....The gay boys are asking the baker to "participate" in their gay wedding. Same goes for photographer, flower folks, invitations....

No one should be forced to participate in a gay wedding.

And when they left the bake shop...they cried. Gimme a break.

29 posted on 12/06/2017 9:17:17 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: pgkdan

Counting on Roberts is like expecting a wild bear to stop defecating in the woods.


30 posted on 12/06/2017 9:18:22 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: NTHockey

Feed it some Imodium


31 posted on 12/06/2017 9:19:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: NTHockey

Constipate that bear....


32 posted on 12/06/2017 9:20:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: taildragger

If the baker loses, then Crowder should go back to all 13 muslim bakeries and demand a gay wedding cake, and sue them all if they wont


33 posted on 12/06/2017 9:20:39 AM PST by Mr. K (There is no consequence of repealing Obamacare that is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The USSC follows the election returns


34 posted on 12/06/2017 9:21:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“And when they left the bake shop...they cried. Gimme a break. “

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I didn’t know that——made me want to barf.

Pathetic human beings.

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35 posted on 12/06/2017 9:22:07 AM PST by Mears
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To: pgkdan; Bodleian_Girl
received a phone call one day to create a custom wedding cake for two men attempting to marry each other.

You can't have your cake and suck it too.

36 posted on 12/06/2017 9:22:28 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: pgkdan

I read that there wont even be a decision until this Summer.


37 posted on 12/06/2017 9:23:27 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: pgkdan

[[ Justice Kennedy commented that Colorado has not been tolerant of Jack Phillips.

And there it is, the crux of the case: tolerance. Should a state be tolerant of its citizens’ religious beliefs? May it disallow certain beliefs with which it disagrees, demanding that its citizens express antithetical beliefs or face punishment?]]

In the days of kings, evil kings FORCED Christians to bow to idols or face death- they FORCED Christians to violate their strongly held religious beliefs, or face death or punishment-

Are we now forcing religious people to bow to the gay idol/agenda?

[[Justice Kennedy ... questioned whether ruling in Phillips’s favor would allow shop owners to post signs in their windows such as “no gays allowed” or “no cakes for gay weddings.”

Yes, A Store owner should be able to post ‘no cakes for gay weddings because it is against our religious moral beliefs” Every bit as much as they should be allowed to post a sign which states something along the liens of “We will not make cakes for those who practice child sacrifices because it is against our religious moral beliefs-” OR “We will not bake cakes that celebrate pedophilia because it is against our religious moral beliefs”

This is NOT a civil rights issue- the refusal to baKE the cake has nothing to do with the color of skin one is born with- It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that two people CHOOSE to practice a sin that is in direct violation of the religious store owner’s religion

I really wish a muslim baker had been a codefendent- The SC would have puckered their poopers in fear of offending muslism by ruling they can not decline ot bake cakes for gays


38 posted on 12/06/2017 9:23:54 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Red Badger

That is the million dollar question.


39 posted on 12/06/2017 9:26:29 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Bob434

Maybe this will come out like Hobby Lobby. If it’s a personal or closely held business it may choose.


40 posted on 12/06/2017 9:27:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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