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Cruelty and Sexual Harassment
National Review ^ | December 5, 2017 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 12/05/2017 5:28:09 AM PST by Kaslin

Civilization does not cure men of malice, especially when there are no repercussions for bad behavior.

Observers look for some sort of common denominator that would make sense of the daily news blasts of nonconsensual sexual escapades of media, political, and Hollywood celebrities.

No sooner are these lists of the accused compiled than they have to be updated, hourly. Long hushed, covered-up, or even forgotten sexual IEDs suddenly go off without warning and blow up a career.

Weirder still, the now-outraged often overnight can become the outrageous.

One moment Richard Dreyfuss expressed furor when he learned that gay actor Kevin Spacey long ago had groped his own son under the table (while the three were working on a script). The next minute, Dreyfuss himself was accused of an earlier repulsive unwanted sex act or advance toward a female subordinate.

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1 posted on 12/05/2017 5:28:09 AM PST by Kaslin
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Victor Davis Hanson Column


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2 posted on 12/05/2017 5:29:30 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Kaslin

The excerpt starts by equating a queer child predator with a man - woman relationship is the bigger goal of this article. NAMBLA lives on and is no worse than an 18 year old man having a petting affair with his 16 YO girlfriend.


3 posted on 12/05/2017 5:34:53 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo...)
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To: Kaslin

No excuses for POS sociopaths. Criminal behavior is caused by criminal thinking.


4 posted on 12/05/2017 5:43:13 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Neoliberalnot

NAMBLA has long had its supporters, even on Free Republic.

The Stonewall Veterans Association was formed specifically to reintegrate pederasts with the rest of the homosexual movement, using the tactics pioneered by ACT-UP. While he was mayor, Rudy Giuliani was a board member of said organization, and he wasn’t merely lending his name in an honorary capacity, he attended govorning meetings.

There are people on this forum who support everything Giuliani to this day. If he wanted to work to legalize smelly old queers banging boys well, that’s New York and the Rudy people are okay with it.

Opposition to NAMBLA should be universal, but it’s not.


5 posted on 12/05/2017 5:45:21 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: PGalt

Absolutely no excuses.


6 posted on 12/05/2017 5:46:17 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Kaslin
Or was the problem occasionally rooted in the proverbial “revenge of the nerds” factor?

There it is, IMHO.

7 posted on 12/05/2017 5:51:20 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Kaslin

Richard Dreyfuss is a piece of work. He was a regular at Plato’s retreat, swingers’ private club where people went to hook up in public and watch people f.


8 posted on 12/05/2017 6:04:36 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Kaslin
One moment Richard Dreyfuss expressed furor when he learned that gay actor Kevin Spacey long ago had groped his own son under the table (while the three were working on a script). The next minute, Dreyfuss himself was accused of an earlier repulsive unwanted sex act or advance toward a female subordinate.

This captures the whole story perfectly. I see this sort of thing the same way I'd view Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims destroying each other in some Middle East sh!t-hole.

9 posted on 12/05/2017 6:05:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: Neoliberalnot

That’s the arguments of the molesters in “An Open Secret” about child predators running Hollywood. Even SAG’s child actor liaison is an admitted abuser (caught on tape).

Age of consent laws are being challenged.


10 posted on 12/05/2017 6:07:18 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Kaslin
Once they found that their intellectual, artistic, or political niches worked like a narcotic on the naïve, perhaps they sought to make up for lost time. In other words, they would somehow do in their fifties, sixties, and seventies what they had failed to do in their twenties and thirties — now coercing with the brain and tongue what they had once failed to win with their biceps.

This is it - exactly. Nerds in school finally able to use political power to act the way they think jocks acted in their youth. And enough women do respond to the aphrodisiac of power to make these guys believe that all women will. For every Leeann Tweeden, Al Franken probably groped two dozen women who either said nothing or who welcomed it, hoping gain something out of the encounter.

Good article by Hanson. Those who need to read it, won't.

11 posted on 12/05/2017 6:16:17 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: A_perfect_lady

yes !!! also, the “ I’m still a stud, dammit” mentality.
Just ewww. all the way around.


12 posted on 12/05/2017 6:18:29 AM PST by ronniesgal (still winning !!)
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To: Kaslin

Good essay, as always. In the several times I was victimized like this, I believe that the perps were (generally) drunks, drug abusers and/or mentally unstable. None of them were normal. I learned early on to get out of an office ASAP if one was employed. HR would do nothing.


13 posted on 12/05/2017 6:46:34 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Kaslin

bump


14 posted on 12/05/2017 11:36:23 AM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I doubt VDH has any such intention. He’s conservative as the day is long.


15 posted on 12/05/2017 1:19:52 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Kaslin

The writer is obviously queer and trying to. get people used
To the idea that a man boy relation ship is no different
Than a boy and girl relation ship.

Watch your kids folks, especially your boys.


16 posted on 12/05/2017 2:37:47 PM PST by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain wordsView Replies, please don`t preach it to me.)
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To: a fool in paradise

SAG?


17 posted on 12/06/2017 3:18:58 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo...)
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To: Neoliberalnot

http://deadline.com/2015/06/sag-aftra-threatening-sue-an-open-secret-director-amy-berg-1201438339/

SAG-AFTRA Threatened To Sue Director Amy Berg Over ‘An Open Secret’

Leaders of SAG-AFTRA tried to sanitize director Amy Berg’s explosive documentary about the sexual abuse of child actors in Hollywood, threatening to sue her if she didn’t remove all references to the union from An Open Secret, which opens in a platform release in three cities beginning today. It may be the first time a Hollywood union has ever threatened to take legal action against a filmmaker over the content of a film...

...The guild leaders, through their outside litigation counsel, demanded that Berg delete all references in the film to the SAG-AFTRA Young Performers Committee. They also wanted Berg to remove all references to one of her main target’s longtime connection to that committee. And they demanded that Berg cut a large portion of her interview with the co-founder of BizParentz, the organization that has done more than any other to raise awareness of child abuse in Hollywood...

...The relationship between Berg and the union had been rocky from the start. She and the film’s producers, Matthew Valentinas and Gabe Hoffman, had been looking into the sexual abuse of child actors since 2011 and had uncovered some disturbing information about Michael Harrah, a manager of child actors and a former child actor himself who’d been a longtime member of the SAG Young Performers Committee, which he co-founded in 1975 and chaired from 2001-2003.

Berg contacted SAG-AFTRA to set up an interview with Harrah, but the guild offered two other committee reps instead – actress Elizabeth Sarah McLaughlin, the chair of the committee, and Leslie Slomka, the committee’s staff liaison. But Berg held firm; she wanted Harrah. It was going to be an ambush.

...A guild rep was on hand during the interview, and when it was over, so was Harrah’s long service to the guild. Berg sat down with Harrah for the interview at the union’s offices in Hollywood on March 26, 2014. He abruptly resigned from the committee a few days later. “Mr. Harrah voluntarily resigned as a member of the SAG­-AFTRA Young Performers Committee within a matter of days following the interview,” Mirell told Wickers. “No public statement by SAG-AFTRA accompanied Mr. Harrah’s voluntary resignation from that committee.”

Harrah, the film reveals, had questionable relations with some of the child actors he once represented; some of them even lived with him at his home. During the interview, Berg asked him if he is “attracted to young boys.”

“Not particularly, no,” he replied.

Joey Coleman, a former child actor who was once Harrah’s client, presents evidence in the film that appears to contradict that – a taped telephone conversation in which Harrah acknowledges that he’d made “unwanted” advances towards him when Coleman was a kid.

“I didn’t like when you tried to have me sleep in your bed and touch me and everything,” Coleman told Harrah on the phone. “I hated that.”

“Yeah, and that was something unwanted I shouldn’t have done,” Harrah replied, unaware that he was being taped. “And there’s no way you can undo that. But it certainly is something I shouldn’t have done...”

...In the film, Harrah says that he had been molested when he was a child actor, but was vague about the details. “I suppose somebody did, but I would be hard-pressed to remember anything specific,” he said. “But it was not uncommon, let’s put it that way...”

One of Harrah’s other former clients, a former child actor who is identified in the film only as James G., recounts how Harrah had invited him to come live at his home while trying to break into show business. “You know,” he says in the film, “being up sometimes really early to go to these auditions and stuff, that’s when Michael Harrah approached me and said, ‘Well, you can come stay at my house with the other guys that are there.’ He had three other guys stayin’ in the house that were his clients.” The kids’ ages, he said, were “from 10-11, to 16-17, but I still thought it was rather odd, you know, that someone would let their 10-year-old son move in with, at the time I think, a mid-50s-year-old man.”

“Many of the kids that I worked with,” Harrah says in the film, “couldn’t have even been able to take advantage of being in the industry had they had to have their families move here with them.” Even so, he said, “I do see the possibility that things can be misinterpreted, and I try to be very aware of that. No matter how closely you’re working with someone, and you do work closely with clients in these situations, there still has to be that professional line in there where you say, ‘We’re not stepping over this.’ ”

Harrah told Deadline that there are currently young people “in their 20s” living with him. Asked if 11-year-old kids had ever lived with him, he said: “There have been kids that come and go.”

In the film, he also attempts to explain how child molesters are sometimes misunderstood. “So much of what goes on in these situations happen almost by accident,” he said. “You get the idea that someone out there was a child predator and they were preying on children and everything they did was to steer the child into this. A lot of the ones that I at least was aware of, they just sort of fell into it.” And this is the advice he says he’s given to child actors who have been molested: “Where I’ve had the opportunity to talk to someone about it and said, ‘Look, this is not a terrible thing unless you think it is. It’s just something that happens to you in your life.’ ”

Berg also got Harrah to admit that he had not complied with California’s Child Performers Protection Act, which requires criminal background checks on managers, publicists and photographers who have unsupervised access to young performers.

“I have to confess that I haven’t signed up yet myself and I should go and do that,” he told Berg. “I don’t know. Is it going to be effective? We have yet to see. There’s nobody running around saying to me, ‘Have you signed up yet? Why not?’ ” Indeed, that’s the main problem with the well-intentioned law – no one is enforcing it.

Asked if he’d signed up yet, he told Deadline: “I haven’t. I suppose I should. I don’t know. The great thing about laws is that passing them is easy; doing something about them is another story...”

“SAG would prefer an extremely narrow definition of the term ‘workplace,’ ” the producers said in a statement to Deadline. “Being at the home of a member of their Young Performers Committee, a founding member, prominent person, for work purposes, for lessons, or on their way to an audition or something, is a more realistic definition of the term...


The above is a really long article I found online (because conveniently Wiki doesn’t mention ANY of the SAG connection and related controversy in the article on the film).

It also gets into detail about time frame etc regarding SAG’s complaints against the film (the SAG employ was in that position at the time of the interview, he was quit/fired when his molestation admission came to light).


18 posted on 12/06/2017 4:51:56 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Notice the article minces its words carefully, avoiding the use of queers raping little boys. Life in prison is an adequate punishment but there was perhaps a better time when a father of a little boy would not be charged for killing the queer abuser.


19 posted on 12/06/2017 6:16:32 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo...)
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To: Neoliberalnot

One of the men covered in the documentary is hight up in Bitcoin and also a member of some Clinton foundation initiative.


20 posted on 12/06/2017 7:47:40 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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