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To: Unassuaged

“Taking off your clothes is not consenting to sex. Lots of men like to think so, however.”

There’s no hint in the article that she did not consent. Just be honest. If it was not consensual, there where is the evidence - from the woman’s own words - that it was an assault?

There is none - not in any of the versions of this story that I have seen so far and that has to be three versions already this morning. Even the fainting doesn’t tell us anything about it not being consensual.

It is amazing to me how in the age of “women’s liberation” we suddenly treat women as if they are not consenting adults when their own words show they are. She never once - in any of the published versions of this story - says ANYTHING about physical force, rape, assault, being held against her will or anything even approaching that. The simple fact is - if all we have is what has been published- she willingly had sex with Lauer and then woke up feeling like she had been used because he left her on the floor like discarded trash. She might have passed out from low blood sugar for all we know. Or she might simply be like this woman: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4241544/The-wife-FAINTS-sex.html


123 posted on 11/30/2017 7:40:26 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

I agree except for your editorializing, i.e. ‘willingly’


125 posted on 11/30/2017 7:46:35 AM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: vladimir998

Yes so many acting like women cannot say no, cannot attempt to defend themselves. Just complete compliance and then later call it assault or rape. This is treating women as if they are children or have mental disabilities and have no idea about things.

I would absolutely not take my clothes off for a man if I was not intending to have sex with him. I can understand why men take that as a yes. I know the law does not see it that way but I do. I would have a real hard time on a jury convicting a man of rape if the woman willingly undressed for him, especially if at no point in the story does it mention she said no, or did anything to try to keep it from happening.


185 posted on 11/30/2017 2:06:25 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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