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Fact Check: Claim That GOP Tax Reform Would 'Raise Taxes on the Middle Class' (tr)
Townhall.com ^ | Nov 28, 2017 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/28/2017 8:45:01 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: UCANSEE2

I’ve already done that. What I want to do is have the video show up in the post so all you have to do is click on the play button.


21 posted on 11/28/2017 9:40:25 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Red Badger

There was an article yesterday about hedge fund managers in NYC who are doing just that! Going to Florida. They are going to save $20,000 per year or more!


22 posted on 11/28/2017 9:41:09 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: robroys woman

“get some state income tax reform done”

Are you kidding? How would we pay the illegals here in CA the billions and billions of dollars we spend on them if we don’t collect enough state tax?


23 posted on 11/28/2017 9:42:25 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: zzwhale

Not only is it NOT tax reform, the fu@#%kers yesterday said that, if they run a budget shortfall, that will AUTOMATICALLY trigger a tax hike!

What is should trigger is the automatic firing of every single azzhole who votes for this monstrosity.

I want my own personal trigger like that —> “Boss, we are running over our household budget this month. I want to invoke my automatic pay raise trigger to cover our shortfall.”


24 posted on 11/28/2017 9:44:51 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: cherry
we ALL need lower taxes...

No argument here. The SIMPLE solution is for those GD bastards in Washington to shrink the stinking fed gov't. If it were back at 15% of GDP we wouldn't be having any of these discussions. We ought protesting outside the capitol with torches, pitchforks, tar, feathers and rails.

Between 1900 and 2012, federal government receipts increased from 3.0 percent of the economy’s output to 16.5 percent, and federal expenditures rose from 2.7 percent of economic output to 24.0 percent. State and local governments have also expanded relative to the rest of the economy, although not nearly as much as the federal government. Between 1930 and 2012, state and local government receipts grew from 8.0 percent to 13.0 percent of economic output, while their expenditures rose from 9.1 percent to 14.8 percent of output. For the overall government sector from 1930 to 2012, receipts increased from 11.1 to 26.4 percent of gross domestic product, (GDP) and expenditures rose from 12.1 to 35.6 percent of GDP.

25 posted on 11/28/2017 9:50:50 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Mariner
No Democrat has even PROPOSED a tax increase on the scale that Republicans are going to deliver to me.

Ditto here. I like that --> "never even PROPOSED such a hike!"

The thing that really PI$$ES me off is 45 years of work, scrimping, saving, and retirement financial planning under a set of rules that are thrown away the very year I retire! I wish a meteor would hit the capitol building and wipe them all out.

26 posted on 11/28/2017 9:53:55 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
They are going to save $20,000 per year or more!

By switching to GEICO!..................

27 posted on 11/28/2017 10:01:04 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The problem with tax reform is it is not accompanied by a long list of budget cuts.


28 posted on 11/28/2017 10:01:45 AM PST by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: Red Badger

“They’ll all move to Florida!..............,No State Income Taxes!.......”
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Or states such as Pennsylvania which DOES NOT TAX RETIREMENT INCOME (e.g., pensions, IRA & 401K distributions, Social Security).


29 posted on 11/28/2017 10:03:51 AM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: CaptainK
In NYS that 's a household with a teacher and a cop. That's not what Trump promised. It's VERY disappointing.

Trump has little actual control - the RINOs are the problem and there are enough who won't vote for it if it doesn't do enough or if it does too much...

30 posted on 11/28/2017 10:07:56 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Same situation here...my husband, a firefighter, is scheduled to retire next year. I have been a stay at home mom and we have lived UNDER our income and planned accordingly for the last two decades.

Now, because of the monstrosity that is Obamacare, along with the proposed massive changes in the tax laws, all of our plans are out the window! Losing personal exemptions and SALT deductions, here in Washington state where BOTH are high, means that we will take a huge hit!

How about the government doing what taxpayers have been forced to do over and over again? CUT YOUR BUDGET and live within your means! Neither plan, House of Senate, makes any significant reductions in government SPENDING!


31 posted on 11/28/2017 10:20:48 AM PST by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know Who holds the future!)
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To: trebb
Trump has little actual control

Disagree. He should be knocking heads in Congress, fighting to shrink the GD government like Reagan did, and threatening to veto any tax "reform" that doesn't do that. He has a LOT of control, but hasn't learned (IMO) how to cajole, horsewhip, sweet-talk, and beat up Congress as needed.

As it stands today, all they are doing is changing the tax payers from business to individuals. Yesterday they predicted the government's TAKE will go up by $1.3 TRILLION because of a more robust economy! And they seemed to be bragging about that fact, too.

The only action that warrants bragging is the amount that they are shrinking the govt. But there is zero discussion of that by anybody in the uniparty. This whole stupid charade is going to make the government bigger than ever.

32 posted on 11/28/2017 10:23:16 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

;)


33 posted on 11/28/2017 10:24:48 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Keep telling yourself that....the GOPe/RINOs will do anything they can to stop him and the tax bill crap proves that they cannot come together over anything - it’s always too much or too little with a divide among those who will vote no for their own reasons. If McConnell and Ryan were serious, they might be able to get something through but most of us won’t like it anyway.


34 posted on 11/28/2017 10:29:07 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

“this tax bill crap proves that they cannot come together over anything”

No, they ARE coming together over a MONSTROUS tax HIKE!


35 posted on 11/28/2017 10:54:01 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Red Badger

I’m in Maryland...willretireto PA


36 posted on 11/28/2017 11:10:27 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: Red Badger

I’m in Maryland...will retire to PA.


37 posted on 11/28/2017 11:11:08 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: freepertoo

Not Florida?.............The weather’s better...................


38 posted on 11/28/2017 11:12:06 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Well, I am surprised Guy Benson is being so honest. I’d expect him to join the Dem mantra. Maybe he forgot to renew his NeverTrump membership card.


39 posted on 11/28/2017 11:12:56 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Mariner

I remain hopeful that they will hold to a $10,000 cap on SALT. If not, I’m going to get killed.


40 posted on 11/28/2017 11:31:45 AM PST by Obadiah
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