Posted on 11/27/2017 12:47:57 PM PST by fwdude
This week marks the fifth anniversary of Colorado's legalization of the commercial marijuana trade, and the reviews aren't good.
An editorial in the Colorado Springs Gazette reports, "Five years of retail pot coincide with five years of a homelessness growth rate that ranks among the highest rates in the country. Directors of homeless shelters, and people who live on the streets, tell us homeless substance abusers migrate here for easy access to pot."
The paper says, "Five years of Big Marijuana ushered in a doubling in the number of drivers involved in fatal crashes who tested positive for marijuana, based on research by the pro-legalization Denver Post. Five years of commercial pot have been five years of more marijuana in schools than teachers and administrators ever feared."
(Excerpt) Read more at 1.cbn.com ...
“Read an article written by a journalist that got his “medicinal” marijuana license in California.”
I don’t need to read the article. California’s medical marijuana program has always been defacto legalization by design. It’s been a running joke for many years. My understanding is you can get a card there in around an hour or less, depending on where you go just by saying you have frequent headaches. Not so in Florida. Not even close lol.
I can assure you Florida’s medical marijuana program is nothing like California’s. I had to provide ALL of my medical records in advance of my 1st appointment with my cannabis doctor. The entire process took 45 business days from my 1st appointment till I got my card.
“Now do you think I need a complete study of all people who received such licenses to determine that they are issued for any d@mn reason at all?”
Yes, I do. As flawed as California’s medical marijuana program may be, you still have no real knowledge of who is there legitimately & who is not. It’s ok, neither do I.
“I think the one example is sufficient enough to surmise the truth without any further data.”
To assume what happens in California is uniformly happening in the other 49 states is at best fallacious.
I only have direct, personal experience with Florida’s medical marijuana program. Come visit me in Jacksonville & I will be happy to show you the dramatic differences between Florida & California’s medical marijuana programs. You could come with me and sit in my favorite dispensary’s waiting room & talk with other patients. You’ll have to get yourself here but if you do we’ll be happy to fill your tummy with some home cooked grub after.
Of course you could just take the time to research it on the web & learn for yourself lol! For instance, does California have one of these: https://mmuregistry.flhealth.gov ?
At this website all Florida medical marijuana patients can see how much medicine their doctor recommends they use. By law, medical marijuana patients in Florida can only use the amount of THC our doctors recommend & for 70 days that’s all you get to use till the next 70 day period. Unlike California where you can purchase as much cannabis as you can afford to pay for here in Florida we cannot use more than we’ve been reccomended.
So by all means, stay ignorant & assume falsely. :)
I have a problem with recreational usage of any drug.
This conservative has observed that drug criminalization has done far more to enrich criminals, with all the ills that follow, than it has to reduce drug use - much like Prohibition of the drug alcohol did.
Sources? We don' need no steenkin' sources!
Prohibition of alcohol DID have a dampening effect on alcohol use, though.
Whatever one’s opinion on Prohibition is, you have to admit that it at least went through the proper constitutional process to be enacted, just as its repeal did.
“Unless you did proper interviews of all medical marijuana patients in America. Did you?”
A study with a large and representative sample is generally considered acceptable.
Not that I’ve seen one of those, either.
Prohibition of alcohol DID have a dampening effect on alcohol use, though.
And an enriching effect on mobsters. I've never seen an estimate of more than 40% (and have seen less) for how much Prohibition reduced alcohol use. The cure was worse than the disease, which is why conservatives of the day opposed the enactment of Prohibition and supported its repeal.
Whatever one’s opinion on Prohibition is, you have to admit that it at least went through the proper constitutional process to be enacted, just as its repeal did.
That it did, unlike today's federal drug criminalization.
Hey my good FRiend, TheStickman! Lots to be thankful for this Thanksgiving. Hope yours went well, too.
“This conservative has observed that drug criminalization has done far more to enrich criminals, with all the ills that follow, than it has to reduce drug use - much like Prohibition of the drug alcohol did.”
Ah, the elephant in the room to which attention cannot be drawn.
No matter how you shout and jump up and down waving your arms, some people just refuse to see it.
The WeedWussies love the fake feelings that result from abusing pot. Fake feelings for a fake people.
I’ve seen some FR potsie here threaten to kill an FR person for criticizing pot and potheads. The mods had to pull the thread because the potsie was unhinged.
With the way Team Pothead talks, they give the impression that the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution for them and them alone. Lol!
The ugly truth about the WeedWankers: they promote a Declaration of Dependence on their smelly-assed weed over true independence itself.
“The WeedWussies love the fake feelings that result from abusing pot. Fake feelings for a fake people.”
As a conservative myself, it seems to me that your writings are unreasonably biased against the notion that this medicine, in use for more than 30,000 years, is anything other than utterly harmful.
It also seems that you attribute to it powers that it does not have. I won’t say that a person who wishes to be knowledgeable should compare the effects of pot with heroin and LSD, because heroin and LSD are genuinely dangerous drugs that should only be used, if at all, under medical supervision.
Compared to those two drugs, pot is little stronger than a good pot of oolong.
I now stand by to be accused of being a pot-head, a junkie, and a user of LSD.
Also an enemy of Virtue, a slave to and promoter of vice, and a corrupter of children.
And then they run around accusing the libertarians of being the hysterical ones? It's the same kind of projection we see from the Left so often.
My experience on this thread is that it's the Prohibitionists who are hysterical and unhinged, resorting to feeble smears and insults in an effort to shift the focus from their arbitrary authoritarian dogma—which is fundamentally indefensible.
As soon as any government—enabled by Tyrants, bureaucrats and/or an emotional mob—can start implementing arbitrary law, and declaring this or that to be a crime in the complete absence of anyone's rights being infringed, there is no practical limit to the power the State can wield.
And that is the narrow view of "Liberty" and the "Pursuit of Happiness" that everyone else is supposed to swallow?
What a Free Individual does—or possesses—in the privacy of their home (that pesky ol' Fourth Amendment rearing its ugly head again) is nobody else's business, as long as nobody's rights are being infringed. And for anyone to claim they believe in minimal government while rejecting that notion is the epitome of hypocrisy.
So let the smears and insults fly. I, for one, consider them as a badge of honor—a testament to the bankruptcy of the Prohibitionist argument...
Uh... what?
“Also an enemy of Virtue, a slave to and promoter of vice, and a corrupter of children.”
Wow. I have goosebumps.
“My experience on this thread is that it’s the Prohibitionists who are hysterical and unhinged, resorting to feeble smears and insults”
Down the decades I have noticed that people on the wrong side of an issue often argue like liberals. They may not *be* liberals; just wrong on one issue. And they are perfectly reasonable about everything else. But when that one issue comes up, they argue like liberals.
I have a theory that, when you arrive in the middle of a discussion, you can quickly tell which side is right by observing which side it is that is arguing like liberals.
“Legal Marijuana was inevitable the moment Alcohol was legalized. Even Americans can’t put up with that level of hypocrisy. Though God knows we gave it a good try.”
Well said.
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It did. Take care :)
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