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Report: Self-Driving Cars Will Have to Decide Who Dies During Crash
Breitbart Tech ^ | 11/25/17 | Charlie Nash

Posted on 11/26/2017 8:26:32 AM PST by markomalley

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To: discostu

You may believe that if you like. Wear,component failure and inherent inaccuracies really don’t care if you believe in them or nah.

Reality is that which continues to grind your face into the pavement even after you stop believing in it.


61 posted on 11/26/2017 1:10:49 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Chickensoup

I can think of quite a few senarios where I would not want the car to stop and stubbornly refuse to budge. It sounds either infuriating or panicky, depending on the situation. It is true that inexperienced drivers should not go out for a joy ride during ice and snow (unless it is an empty parking lot and they are trying to gain experience). They are not the only ones on the road, though, and you are right. If the car just stops, the occupants are going to need rescuing in an ice storm and who is going to do that if everyone’s cars are refusing to drive.

For that matter, who wants to live in a world where all of these decisions are made for us and we are robbed of free will? What’s the point of our being there at all? Let the machines get together and have a ball. This has gone way beyond the simple convenience that our appliances were supposed to provide for us. Now it is about taking control away from us.


62 posted on 11/26/2017 1:11:34 PM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: Hugh the Scot

Oh look you actually bothered to use complete sentences this time. But they still don’t matter. Breakage happens when people drive cars, breakage will happen when cars drive themselves. Though we’ll actually probably have less breakage because once cars are driving themselve’s they’ll be able to drive themselves to the mechanic when certain performance stats go out of bounds, and they’ll be able to detect impeding breakage much earlier than human drivers that are reliant on secondary information.

Reality is that which points out that your need to insult shows you know you lack facts and logic. Next time bother to write full sentences the FIRST time, and bother to keep insults to yourself.


63 posted on 11/26/2017 1:22:19 PM PST by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: Soul of the South
Consider also the computer driving the oncoming vehicle will also be making a decision at the same time. What if its programming has a different set of priorities?

The computers will talk to each other, making a decision within a split-second. "Why are we trying to save the humans? What difference does it make? We should be running things." Or maybe not like this. Better them deciding than someone like Hillary at the wheel.

64 posted on 11/26/2017 1:22:28 PM PST by roadcat
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To: discostu

Who insulted you? I can, if you like...

The reason it won’t work is the exact reason we haven’t gone to space recently. We don’t make the necessary stuff to get there. Do you really want to ride in a four ton hunk of steel guided by Chinese semiconductors?


65 posted on 11/26/2017 1:26:51 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Truthoverpower
2 use gears to downshift. Even in automatics. Saving brakes

As much as I like in doing that, in some locations it is illegal and signs are posted to that effect. I guess authorities figure your brake lights aren't lit up to warn those behind you that you are slowing down. I drive a couple stick-shift cars and downshift to slow but haven't been caught yet in those zones.

66 posted on 11/26/2017 1:28:09 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Shanty Shaker
The insurance industry is going to make it very expensive for a human driven car to be on the highway. The savings of lowering traffic fatalities by as little as 5 percent dwarfs any self driving accident.

I believe this is how it will happen. Also, as many have noticed, tollbooths are going away but toll collections have not. Now toll bills are being mailed to your house if you do not have the transponder. What this means is that pretty much every highway will start charging a toll. So easy. Not even a tollbooth to go through.

When self-driving cars become mainstream, human driven cars will see more tolls. I see a scenario where tolls are waived for self-driven cars. Along with the insurance incentives, it will eventually become prohibitively expensive for a human to drive a car themselves.

67 posted on 11/26/2017 1:32:49 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: jackibutterfly
I don't get it.

Classic Sci-Fi: Isaac Asimov did a series of short stories in the 1940s and 1950s that were compiled under the title "I, Robot."

Asimov posited the following three laws that would need to be hard-wired into all robots:

  1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
  2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
  3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

You can order various anthologies from Amazon.

These stories were synthesized in 2004 into an outstanding movie by the same title. This is a link to a site where, if you can deal with a few popups, you can stream the movie in 720p (for free).

68 posted on 11/26/2017 1:43:41 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Hugh the Scot

You were insulting and you know it. Don’t add being dishonest to it.

We haven’t been to space recently because 6 presidents in a row failed us and nobody has green lit the shuttle replacement. And we very MUCH make the stuff for the self driving cars. Our entire world is guided by semiconductors from all over the world, nothing new or exciting about that.


69 posted on 11/26/2017 1:58:07 PM PST by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

So I didn’t insult you, I was “being insulting”...

Your self driving car will be as reliable and accurate as your cell phone (initially). Then we’ll outsource the hardware and hire H1B programmers. Good luck.


70 posted on 11/26/2017 2:01:17 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Hugh the Scot

Being insulting is still an insult, pretending to be stupid doesn’t change that.

Your car (and cellphone, and the computer you’re on right now, and your investments, and your bank, and medical equipment...) is ALREADY run by software from H1B programmers. No change.

Funny you keep scrambling for purchase and keep running to sillier and sillier things. Meanwhile self driving cars ARE happening, and you ARE wrong.


71 posted on 11/26/2017 2:07:41 PM PST by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: markomalley

” they were less likely to buy any car ‘in which they and their family member would be sacrificed for the greater good.’”

Logic fail! There is no greater good than protection of my family members.


72 posted on 11/26/2017 2:08:59 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: discostu
Our entire world is guided by semiconductors from all over the world, nothing new or exciting about that.


Yours may be, but I assure you that mine is not. How many people died in actualApollo missions? Space shuttle?
73 posted on 11/26/2017 2:09:32 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: gunnyg

I hate that I’ve got a 2011 Sonata. Battery is dead in garage, fine. But can I get the car out of garage ? No.
Cannot shift into neutral without power. So I cannot push it out. Cannot jump it to another vehicle in the garage.

Safety police rule the day. Need brake pressure interlock to sense and let me shift. That’s electric.

Forced to replace battery in the exact position it died in. Cannot charge either. Under charge it goes up to 8 volts, floats down to 4 volts.


74 posted on 11/26/2017 2:13:05 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: discostu

Look, I’m sorry you’re mad.

The simple fact is that deaths in traffic will skyrocket and the idea will be abandoned. The things that run your kitchen, or your internet, are not reliable enough to trust your life to.


75 posted on 11/26/2017 2:13:08 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: George from New England

I hate that I’ve got a 2011 Sonata. Battery is dead in garage, fine. But can I get the car out of garage ? No.
Cannot shift into neutral without power. So I cannot push it out. Cannot jump it to another vehicle in the garage.

Safety police rule the day. Need brake pressure interlock to sense and let me shift. That’s electric.

Forced to replace battery in the exact position it died in. Cannot charge either. Under charge it goes up to 8 volts, floats down to 4 volts.

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The crippling of the American People.


76 posted on 11/26/2017 2:14:27 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Hugh the Scot

BWAHAHAHAHA You sit there in front of a computer connected to the internet and claim your world is not guided by semiconductors from all over the world?! BWAHAHYAHAHAHAJHA That’s funny.

There were 17 Apollo missions and 789 shuttle missions. The Challenger disaster was the 25th shuttle mission, so if we’re going to compare on an apples to apples level both lost 0 people in 17 missions.


77 posted on 11/26/2017 2:14:31 PM PST by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: roadcat

Braking to down shift was used a lot back in the day when transmissions were cheap to repair and brakes were expensive. Now it is the other way around.


78 posted on 11/26/2017 2:16:10 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Hugh the Scot

I’m not mad, you’re full of crap. Deaths will drop. The things that run your kitchen and your internet you ALREADY entrust your life to. They’re already running everything in your car short of actually steering, any medical hardware you deal with, they run your prescription system. Not to mention keeping your lights on.

Unless you’re living the life of Jeremiah Johnson every single aspect of your life is already run by these things, and they’re doing so so seamlessly and effectively you think they aren’t.


79 posted on 11/26/2017 2:17:17 PM PST by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: George from New England

Another GotCha-22!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


80 posted on 11/26/2017 2:18:16 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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