Posted on 11/19/2017 12:10:49 PM PST by doug from upland
Following The Gateway Pundit’s viral story on Judge Roy Moore’s alleged signature inside accuser Beverly Young Nelson’s yearbook, more evidence suggested it was a forgery.
The signature says “To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say, ‘Merry Christmas.’ Love, Roy Moore DA, 12-22-77, Olde Hickory House.”
Strangely, “To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say, ‘Merry Christmas.’ Love, Roy,” is written in black ink, while “Moore DA, 12-22-77, Olde Hickory House,” is in blue ink.
And then there’s this… Judge Roy Moore was not the DA in 1978. He would not have signed a signature with DA after it. Moore insists this is not his signature.
The Moore campaign is demanding Gloria Allred turn over the fraudulent signature in the yearbook for analysis.
Now there are calls for the arrest of far left Attorney Gloria Allred.
Market Ticker reported:
Jesus, it’s that obvious and CNN ran this crap?
People need to go to ****ing prison for this. NOW.
Yes, including Gloria Allred. The yearbook is an obvious forgery and she peddled it on national television; that needs to be good for disbarment and prosecution.
And Beverly Nelson’s stepson Darrel Nelson also called for the arrest of Gloria Allred.
Darrel Nelson called for Alabama to arrest Gloria Allred in a text message to The Gateway Pundit on Sunday.
Alabama needs to call for the arrest of Gloria Allred for election tampering and fraud. And more importantly for pissing us off.
Allred was a Hillary delegate at the DNC in 2016.
Allred is also under TWO INVESTIGATIONS for misconduct as an attorney.
It’s time to hold Gloria Alled accountable for pushing this fraudulent document for political gain.
Has not been demonstrated.
Granted, it’s a typical bad forgery, by a bunch of sucky Dem/Lib/Dykes, , but does not rise to a criminal action, darn it!
tangible benefit is not necessary
Not statutorily, but you’re not going to make a real world case without it.
There is also a mens rea problem with getting any conviction.
mens rea for beverly or gloria/ surely you jest if you think there is a mens rea problem for beverly!
in Alabama she will be convicted.
Gloria Allred is going to write a new book called
How To Forge Things Badly <<
Didnt Dan Rather already write that book??
How can you prove it was her who wrote it?
I have no doubt regarding her presentment of it, but it’s still a very doubtful criminal case.
In addition, courts are very hesitant to use criminal laws in any political matter.
You may have a legal violation here, but getting it into, and out of, a criminal court would be exceedingly difficult.
As usual, headline and story are wrong in their foundation.
This is not “PROOF”, but rather limited exculpatory evidence.
For example, the person who does not remember Judge Moore ever coming into restaurant cannot testify from personal knowledge that he never went to restaurant.
Granted, the whole yearbook thing is BS, but that article did not disPROVE it. Legally sufficient “Proof”, or the absence of it, is the operative element here.
there are different types of proof. In this instance Moore is being tried in the court of public opinion courtroom rules of evidence are not used as nothing presented so far is admissible proof or evidence. Nothing is under oath and especially the yearbook has not been properly authenticated and is being challenged.
There is imo sufficient probable cause that the yearbook note and signature is a forgery and a warrant for its seizure could be obtained and an investigation begun to include examination of the yearbook by a questioned document examiner and also to question both Allred and Beverly Nelson about the statements they made, particularly related to the yearbook which is suspect.
And her evil spawn Harvey protector.
Thank you for your luciditory post.
And Allred and and Nelson say nothing and case goes nowhere.
https://law.justia.com/codes/alabama/2006/13297/13a-9-7.html
possesion of forged document.
2006 Alabama Code - Section 13A-9-7 — Criminal possession of forged instrument in the third degree.
(a) A person commits the crime of criminal possession of a forged instrument in the third degree if he possesses or utters a forged instrument of a kind covered in Section 13A-9-4 with knowledge that it is forged and with intent to defraud.
(b) Criminal possession of a forged instrument in the third degree is a Class A misdemeanor.
“intent to defraud”
Intent to defraud requires a reasonable expectation of a tangible benefit where it can be proved she knew it was a forgery.
#!, No tangible benefit was ever claimed.
#2, Requires proving “state of mind” or thoughts.
Sorry. Again, I agree she is scum, but it’s not a win-able CRIMINAL case.
requires a reasonable expectation of a tangible benefit
wrong- it is to the detriment of the persons defrauded...
https://thelawdictionary.org/fraud/
What is FRAUD?
Fraud consists of some deceitful practice or willful device, resorted to with intent to deprive another of his right, or in some manner to do him an injury. As distinguishedfrom negligence, it is always positive, intentional. Maher v. Hibernia Ins. Co.,67 N. Y. 292; Alexander v. Church, 53 Conn. 501, 4 Atl. 103; Studer v. Bleistein. 115 N.Y. 31G, 22 X. E. 243, 7 L. R. A. 702; Moore v. Crawford, 130 U. S. 122, 9 Sup. Ct. 447,32 L. Ed. 878; Fechheimer v. Baum (C. C.) 37 Fed. 167; U. S. v. Beach (D. C.) 71 Fed.160; Gardner v. Ileartt, 3 Denio (N. Y.) 232; Monroe Mercantile Co. v. Arnold, 108 Ga. 449, 34 S. E. 176.Fraud, as applied to contracts, is the cause of an error bearing on a material part ofthe contract, created or continued by artifice, with design to obtain some unjustadvantage to the one party, or to cause an inconvenience or loss to the other. CivilCode La. art. 1S47.Fraud, In the sense of a court of equity, properly Includes all acts, omissions, andconcealments which involve a breach of legal or equitable duty, trust, or confidencejustly reposed, and are injurious to another, or by which an undue and unconscientiousadvantage is taken of another. 1 Story, Eq. Jur.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=H7qjeaQTBAM
Judge Roy Moore Campaign Officials give EXPLOSIVE Press Briefing
Bottom line, it is not a winnable CRIMINAL case.
A case that could be brought? Quite possibly. Won? No. Because, at a minimum, a judge might well toss it asa matter of law or one Moore hater would hang the jury.
Then the acquittal or hung jury allows the Def, Senator Menendez for example, can proclaim, “See, I wasn’t guilty. It was all false accusations, etc.”
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