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Global outcry as Trump allows big game hunters (like his sons) (trunc)
Daily Mail ^ | Nov 16, 2017 | TARIQ TAHIR

Posted on 11/16/2017 9:49:30 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

The Trump administration has reversed a ban on the importing of trophies from elephants killed in Zimbabwe and Zambia, to outcry from wildlife organisations across the world.

The move overturns the ban put in place by the Obama administration in 2014 and is a heavy blow to the international campaign to end the ivory trade, whose backers include Prince Harry and Prince William.

It also comes after the president's sons, Donald Jr and Eric Trump, were heavily criticized in 2012 after being photographed with a leopard and other big game kills including an elephant.

Though elephants are listed as endangered species, the hunting and killing of them is legal in parts of Africa and the Trump administration argues it helps manage their population numbers.

But wildlife organisations argue that corrupt officials - especially in Zimbabwe where dictator Robert Mugabe was deposed in a coup this week - cannot be trusted to protect elephants. The US Fishing and Wildlife Service said as it announced the decision that new information from officials in Zimbabwe and Zambia supports reversing the ban to allow trophy hunting permits in those countries.

In a statement it said: 'Legal, well-regulated sport hunting as part of a sound management program can benefit the conservation of certain species by providing incentives to local communities to conserve the species and by putting much-needed revenue back into conservation.' However, wildlife organisation across the globe have condemned the decision and argue that it will only encourage illegal poaching of elephants.

The Humane Society of the United States said banning trophies from Zimbabwe should continue because it is 'one of the most corrupt countries on Earth'.

The country's leader Robert Mugabe - who was deposed this week - celebrated his birthday by dining on an elephant, said the society.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Whack ‘em and stack ‘em!


21 posted on 11/16/2017 10:15:09 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: akalinin

A renewable resource? Killing one of God’s creatures just for the fun of it? That is totally disgusting and evil. Man’s inhumanity.


22 posted on 11/16/2017 10:15:26 AM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: factoryrat
Didn’t know that US fish and wildlife ruled supreme over the rest of the world when it comes to hunting big game.

They don't. It only applies to importing trophies into America. Didn't you read the article?

23 posted on 11/16/2017 10:17:05 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: doug from upland
A renewable resource? Killing one of God’s creatures just for the fun of it? That is totally disgusting and evil. Man’s inhumanity.

Are you one of those people who follow licensed legal hunters into the woods on opening day shouting "Murderer!"?

24 posted on 11/16/2017 10:21:00 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Aria

“I don’t need to kill an animal for “sport”.”

Nor I.

But freedom doesn’t require you to shoot a gun, nor others to not shot a gun.


25 posted on 11/16/2017 10:21:13 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It is sad that those animals have to depend on those nations for their protection!


26 posted on 11/16/2017 10:21:50 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: doug from upland
A renewable resource? Killing one of God’s creatures just for the fun of it? That is totally disgusting and evil. Man’s inhumanity.

Do some reading. Many men bawl like babies after they've shot an elephant. It's not just for the 'fun of it'. My guess is you've never hunted or shot anything. Every hunter I know thanks the animal and God afterwards. It's not a 'fun' feeling.
27 posted on 11/16/2017 10:21:54 AM PST by farming pharmer
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To: katiedidit1

Nor do I!


28 posted on 11/16/2017 10:22:30 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: doug from upland

Did you know the meat goes to local villages? It is no different than deer hunting and donating the meat to a food pantry.


29 posted on 11/16/2017 10:23:14 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: doug from upland

Every scrap of legally killed elephant will be eaten, nothing goes to waste.


30 posted on 11/16/2017 10:23:48 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: akalinin

According to 96 Elephants (which gets its name from the approximately 96 elephants that are poached every day), there were roughly 1.2 million African elephants in 1980. After the illegal ivory trade “heyday” during the 1980s, the population declined to nearly 420,000 in 2012.

Look at the picture you posted. An innocent creature being killed for fun. It is evil. I am sure God judges it as evil.


31 posted on 11/16/2017 10:24:22 AM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

re: Are you one of those people who follow licensed legal hunters into the woods on opening day shouting “Murderer!”?

No. That’s pretty insulting. I value life. Life in the womb and the life of God’s creatures.


32 posted on 11/16/2017 10:26:07 AM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: akalinin

you know what’s wrong with that!


33 posted on 11/16/2017 10:26:20 AM PST by Aria
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Do not try and explain harvesting game and proper wildlife conservation to a liberal. It’s like casting pearls before swine.

5.56mm


34 posted on 11/16/2017 10:26:42 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: doug from upland

READY IN: 1608hrs SERVES: 3500
UNITS: US
Ingredients

1 medium elephant
2 (50 gallon) containers broth
500 lbs assorted fresh vegetables, chopped
2 rabbits (optional)

Directions

Cut elephant into bite-size pieces.
This takes about 2 months.
Using large kettles, simmer equal parts elephant and vegetables with enough broth to cover.
Cook for a couple days.
If more are expected add the rabbits, but do this only if necessary.
Most people don’t like to find hare in their stew.


35 posted on 11/16/2017 10:27:28 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yes, I did.

The gist is that you can’t bring trophies of big game into the US, and the USFW is enforcing that.

Therefore, USFW is regulating big game hunting outside of US borders by proxy.

What? did you think that these hunters are going hunting in Africa to fill their freezers full of lion, elephant, or zebra meat?


36 posted on 11/16/2017 10:32:39 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: katiedidit1
I agree with you 100 per cent. Shooting elephants, leopards, etc is not something I find entertaining

I don't either, but I've been to Africa enough times to understand the benefits of proper herd management. A US importation ban doesn't dictate hunting laws in other countries. All the ban does is encourage hunters to prefer going with unscrupulous poachers than with legit conservation groups.

37 posted on 11/16/2017 10:46:27 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: doug from upland
No. That’s pretty insulting. I value life. Life in the womb and the life of God’s creatures.

Yet you sit here in judgment of people who legally bought licenses, spent fortunes traveling to the hunt then donated the meat from their kill to the local villagers in one of the poorest nations on earth.

38 posted on 11/16/2017 10:50:41 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: doug from upland
What is happening to elephants is outrageous and cruel. Killing them for souvenirs is just wrong.

People can make that judgement for themselves. It's fine by me.
39 posted on 11/16/2017 11:02:28 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: doug from upland
Look at the picture you posted. An innocent creature being killed for fun. It is evil. I am sure God judges it as evil.

Wow! You speak for God? I am certain that He judges your opinion as evil.
40 posted on 11/16/2017 11:04:39 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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