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1 posted on 11/11/2017 2:22:09 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

It looks like Romney learned all about lying from Whorehouse Harry Reid:.....

“Harry Reid Justifies Lying About Romney from Senate Floor: ‘He Didn’t Win, Did He?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPYdNxYgxEA


37 posted on 11/11/2017 2:52:01 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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.....”I suspect that the Establishment would even allow a systemic collapse of America. “Better to burn it and rule over ashes,” they think, “then to lose power.”.....

Yes.....however... they don’t have foreign Beach side Condos and Islands..... and Mountain Chalets on foreign soil for nothing.


38 posted on 11/11/2017 2:55:32 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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"Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections."

Romney's statement is undeniably true. In an election, voters can use any benchmark they want. Many people use party affiliation. Others use policy positions. Some many look at the color of a candidate's skin, other may evaluation the content of a candidate's character. Hell, a voter can base his decision on whether or not he likes a candidate's shoes.

"Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections."

39 posted on 11/11/2017 2:55:38 PM PST by SSS Two
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To: Lazamataz; samtheman; bagster; Mr. K
It reveals a very dangerous situation, a situation that shows that the Establishmenty is completely unrestrained by American customs, laws, and basic moral fairness. I suspect that the Establishment would even allow a systemic collapse of America. "Better to burn it and rule over ashes," they think, "then to lose power."

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You are right. And along those lines, I regret to have to say that I continually worry about the President's safety.

I don't trust these lefty/Globalist/totalitarians one bit.

They are the worst of people, and those sick types get desperate and do awful things to reach their ends. They do not see wining with moral deeds as important whatsoever.

52 posted on 11/11/2017 3:16:10 PM PST by a little elbow grease (...... it's hard to get by just upon a smile)
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Actually, that Republicans occasionally eat their own is one of the few good things left about the party.

One of the few things that separates Republican swamp dwellers from Democrat swamp dwellers.

The difficulty lay in the standard of evidence acceptable.

For Republicans, even when they are not hyper sensitized, the standard is in political matters properly a stink test no matter if it is a Rublicans or Democrat under consideration. It is true: in politics there shouldn’t be a presumption of innocence ... that really is for criminal matters just as it should be, but often isn’t in people’s zeal to get a pound of flesh out of the bad guys, in civil matters.

With Democrats they employ a double standard: when considering Democrats it is often that without conviction the evidence is not acceptable as evidence. Thus you see them tout the lack of CONVICTIONS during Democrat administrations. Simply: they do not accept evidence that can be given because it is not somehow proven in a court of law. The same is often true in theological matters as well: the evidence that is acceptable as evidence is so qualified that functionally evidences (which are acceptable) may not be given.

Conversely, the left most definitely employs a stink test in matters where us “not we” to their “we” are concerned. Thus you see the often speak about the many INVESTIGATIONS of Republicans (keeping in mind that Republicans don’t abhor investigating Republicans as a rule as they frequently have a fundamental break in attitude with Democrats when it comes to their own) as if proof, the occasional conviction or ejection from office as proof of a more general principal (of corruption), and in general the failings of Republicans are seen as hypocricy though them not caring about the misdeeds of Democrats is NOT seen as hypocricy. Likewise we see such assertions that women don’t lie about rape go completely out the door if the accusee is on the right (or “left”) side of when the seriousness of the charges matter.

So why does this matter? Well, Republicans still accept stink test more or less unconditionally ... this isn’t a bad thing; but, as Democrats (leftists) prejudice evidence, are frequently immune to evidence against leftist even as they are rhetorically easy going with respect to evidence against not-we this inherently biases the political and cultural terrain against non-leftist simply because these two groups co-exist.

The answer isn’t to become more like Democrats though, for two bads can’t make a neutral.

The left will be bad. As with the victim mentality there comes a point when you must let go of hope they will reform and just let the glue that we’ve hoped still binds us all fall away, for it has been some time that it has bound them to us except as a matter of convenience to them when conviviality in politics and governance serves their purposes.

Being deluded that old ideals of the common culture means something still doesn’t make it so and this is seen in how the social contracts the left speak of only grow in scope and invasiveness, with the sole exception of who is doing who or what (sexual escapades now basically being the best exemplar of the chasing after happiness many acknowledge) they never retreat or let something remain a matter not for government authority.

To this end we must NOT become creatures of emotion as they are but we must learn to accept incrementalism, only in roll back to their advance, and deal with them as enemies to all we hold dear, for politically that’s what progressivism has been (at least with respect to governance by constitutional means) since it appeared in the 19th century.

Don’t hate, just don’t care. Don’t tolerate what positive tolerance is demanded for. “Tolerance” is not a virtue even though it is to the left THE virtue, only challenged by a “niceness” that can be at once murderous and libertine even at it is practically puritanical when it comes to want of tolerating Liberty and associations that dares not need or want progressivism.

but to reject the left’s whole world view. To dissolve the glue that might give a false sense of having something in common with them by NOT CARING about their political views and wants, working to simply defeat them as enemies without the emotions

by separating from their poisons within rather than be poisoned by the expression of their ideologies. Not caring


54 posted on 11/11/2017 3:23:21 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Mitt Romney is a Democrat with a “R” by his name.

If the Republican Establishment is successful in getting him the nomination, then cross over and vote for the Democrat. That way at leas the people will clearly know their Senator.

Fake Republicans like Mitt Romney need to be flushed out of the party. No more Democrats with “R”s by their names.

I do strongly suspect the Democrats support the fake Republicans like Romney in Republican Primaries. That way they win no matter who wins. Conservatives have to recognize this.


61 posted on 11/11/2017 3:30:25 PM PST by Enlightened1
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The deep swamp state tried to take out Donald Trump with all this fake Russian collusion. Judge Moore is getting the same type lies and hysteria thrown at him by deep state dirty ops. I am saying there is a pattern to defame and get rid of people. First it was (still is) Trump and now the lies and fake allegations are cranked up to get Judge Moore to quit the race or lose it to a Democrap.

Then you have the chorus of gelded Never Trumper Republican like Mitt Romney and some Senators telling Moore he should drop out.
They also said over and over again that Trump would lose until reality hit them at 11PM election night 2016. Judge Moore will be elected and will leave them looking like chumps. AGAIN!


62 posted on 11/11/2017 3:31:32 PM PST by dennisw (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it is enemy action.)
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Peter King, New York RINO Republican, said about Judge Moore “Prove you are innocent or resign”. WTF is the matter with these Uniparty RINOs?

Congressman King, you murdered a woman 40 years ago and buried her body. Prove you didn’t do that or resign!


66 posted on 11/11/2017 3:39:28 PM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENT)
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I’m waiting for Mitt Romney, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, and the folks at the Washington Post to condemn Prince Charles for dating a teenager, and subsequently marrying her, when he was in his 30s. Apparently, from Romney’s point of view anyone who even thinks of doing such a thing should be driven from public life.


70 posted on 11/11/2017 3:57:00 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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and Willard is guilty as charged...hes a liberal idiot...that’s gotta be a criminal act...


74 posted on 11/11/2017 4:06:43 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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I hereby allege that all uniparty dipsticks currently in Congress stole my yachts, are therefor unqualified to hold office, and therefor must resign immediately.


77 posted on 11/11/2017 4:20:58 PM PST by Architect of Avalon
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DC Swamp justice. Hangin’ first, trial later.


82 posted on 11/11/2017 4:34:13 PM PST by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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we have certain proof that they are more than happy to ignore voters wishes and even the results of elections, we have certain proof that they will stop at nothing to thwart the common citizen and their will.

I've said before that the Majority of the Republicans in Washington DC are Kamikaze Republicans.

The are willing to die politically, and I dare say give up all their worldly possessions, rather than see Trumpisum survive.

87 posted on 11/11/2017 5:40:05 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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"Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections.” - Mitt Romney
I absolutely agree with that. I don’t care if there is no way of getting a jury which will unanimously convict Hillary - the public record convicts her, and there is no Republican I ever heard of bad enough to make me vote for Hillary against him (or her).

And the voters of Alabama will make their own judgements about the choice between Judge Moore and his Democrat opponent. I expect their judgement to factor in:


88 posted on 11/11/2017 5:42:58 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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Not that the alternatives weren’t worse, but I so regret now supporting and voting for both Bushes, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.


90 posted on 11/11/2017 6:04:57 PM PST by EDINVA
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Amen, Laz.


95 posted on 11/14/2017 6:03:18 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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