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To: MayflowerMadam

Unlock one and you’ve unlocked them all.

FBI wants the crypto key, not an unlocked phone handed back to them.


27 posted on 11/07/2017 2:17:53 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

“FBI wants the crypto key, not an unlocked phone handed back to them.”

Well, the FBI needs to lower their expectations. That’s over the top and none of their business.


31 posted on 11/07/2017 2:19:45 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (A person's greatest strength is his greatest weakness.)
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To: G Larry

Unlock one and you’ve unlocked them all.

FBI wants the crypto key, not an unlocked phone handed back to them.


That should be the solution. For chain of command, after a warrant, Apple builds a small LE room in Cupertino HQ. in it is what they need to unlock a phone used in a crime.

LE escorts the phone to the door, a checked out employee takes it in, there is a camera on the room showing partial view of what he is doing but blocked from seeing his hands on the phone, he works with maximum efficiency, once it’s unlocked, it’s handed back to LE who has been outside the door the whole time.


66 posted on 11/07/2017 2:40:00 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: G Larry

EXACTLY, the last time the FBI asked Apple for assistance, they wanted Apple to build a set of tools that would allow the FBI to crack any iPhone.

While I usually give the benefit of the doubt to law enforcement (although that is shrinking every day), I know that once the “master key” is in the hands of the FBI it will be about 2 minutes before it’s leaked to bad guys everywhere.


67 posted on 11/07/2017 2:41:59 PM PST by MS from the OC (Democrat party platform is based on three things - Big, Hate, and Oh shut up...)
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To: G Larry; Chode

Did they try “FBI” ?

Sometimes things are just too obvious.


87 posted on 11/07/2017 3:10:30 PM PST by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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To: G Larry
Unlock one and you’ve unlocked them all.

FBI wants the crypto key, not an unlocked phone handed back to them.

It's worse than that. The FBI wanted Apple to create a means to install a backdoor on all Apple iPhones, one that would allow them to gain access. They assumed that such a backdoor could be kept secret. That has NEVER happened in the past. Every time such an assurance has been made, it has never survived the first court case, as the defense demands access to the codes to be sure it actually exists, allow their "experts" to duplicate the unlock, and even though released to them defense under "court seal" someone in the process can't resist keeping a copy, and then in some instances, the press demands, under the open court rules, that THEY also get access. and bubble headed judges release copies to them as well in the interests of the "public's right to know." That's exactly what happened to the security of RIM and Blackberry phones when RIM agreed to allow a Blackberry to be unlocked to convict a child-molester.

As Tim Cook put it, security is binary; it's either secure or it's not. Same with encryption. You provide a backdoor, and the mere knowledge there is one is a guarantee it will be found.

130 posted on 11/07/2017 5:24:14 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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