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Libertarians brush off concerns they'll play 'spoiler' in Virginia governor's race
Washington Examiner ^ | Nov. 6, 2017

Posted on 11/06/2017 1:59:06 PM PST by deplorableindc

Virginia’s campaign for governor ends Tuesday with polling suggesting a tight contest between Republican Ed Gillespie and Democrat Ralph Northam, leaving Libertarians yet again a potentially influential factor.

Libertarian Cliff Hyra, a patent attorney, is unlikely to win a large share of the vote, with polls suggesting 3 percent at most, but it’s a clear possibility he will take more votes than the race's margin of victory.

The third party’s leaders say that doesn’t matter, and that Hyra’s individual-rights platform is worth supporting regardless of electoral consequences — not a new argument for Libertarians, twice accused of contributing to recent Republican defeats in Virginia.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: liberaltarians; libertarians; thirdparty; virginia
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To: donozark

My sense is most of nova is kind of burned out from last year and all the Trump news. I don’t really sense the same intensity from successful Democrat statewide elections. I live in nova and almost forgot the election was this week while I was away. Got in an absentee ballot before I left though.


21 posted on 11/06/2017 3:45:38 PM PST by MountainWalker
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To: deplorableindc

Cliff Hyra ain’t Robert Sarvis. He doesn’t have the draw. He’ll be a minor factor.


22 posted on 11/06/2017 4:30:47 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Christianity and politics don't mix.)
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To: DesertRhino

Hyra is exactly the sort of candidate the RPV should be running. Smart. Articulate. Beautiful family. But no, they’d rather run uniparty twits.


23 posted on 11/06/2017 4:34:26 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Christianity and politics don't mix.)
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To: MountainWalker

I agree.


24 posted on 11/06/2017 4:35:32 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Christianity and politics don't mix.)
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To: Nifster

“Confused Cousins”...


25 posted on 11/06/2017 4:52:20 PM PST by Does so (McAuliffe's Charlottesville...and...The Walter Duranty Press"...)
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To: deplorableindc

It shouldn’t be too hard to change Virginia to a top 2 run off for state wide offices so that it wouldn’t matter.


26 posted on 11/06/2017 5:13:47 PM PST by Maelstorm (Free is just another word for someone else has to pay.)
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To: donozark

“... the Northern part of the State sinks the vote elsewhere. Just not sure about turnout tomorrow...”

I think the dreary weather will have more of an impact than the Libertarian candidate. I hope the Dims up here in northern Virginia are still so depressed by last year’s result that the damp cold will keep them away.


27 posted on 11/06/2017 5:15:33 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: deplorableindc

Sounds to me that perhaps the republicans need do a better job of appealing to those libertarian voters. I think it’s funny and sad that the republican party is more interested in insulting and trying to blame libertarians on their own failures.


28 posted on 11/06/2017 5:32:32 PM PST by zeugma (I always wear my lucky red shirt on away missions!)
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To: HokieMom

Sure hope so. In my delegate district we re a little concerned that a lot of people who have moved in the last 2 years will vote democrat. The Republican easily won last time. I think he ‘ll prevail. Would love to extend the majority.


29 posted on 11/06/2017 5:32:59 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: DesertRhino
If the GOP looks at his list of positions and cannot find a way to have common cause with him, that tells us more about the Virginia GOP than it does the Libertarian.

Exactly. It's easier for them to laugh at an insult libertarians than to try to find common ground.

30 posted on 11/06/2017 5:34:57 PM PST by zeugma (I always wear my lucky red shirt on away missions!)
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To: donozark

The Richmond area and Hampton rds aren’t as conservative as they used to be either. In the Richmond area more liberal voters have moved in the last 7 or 8 years. Chesterfield the biggest county, a suburb of Richmond was not long ago comfortable Gop, last presidential election was about 50-50. Henrico the other large county around Richmond, is easily a winner for the dems now. It’s been that way maybe 15 or 20 years there.


31 posted on 11/06/2017 5:42:52 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Carry me back

Losing Nova by a lot, and the Richmond area by a substantial amount. Plus Hampton roads, I think now is about 50-50. Makes it hard to win state wide. When you add in, I believe substantial voter fraud. It’s become tougher. Having said that, I’m hoping for a sweep !


32 posted on 11/06/2017 5:48:50 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Thinking libertarians are conservative is wrong....they are not. Most of them don’t vote at all...at least the ones I know. I am always shocked to learn how little they know about what’s going on.


33 posted on 11/06/2017 5:55:51 PM PST by ontap
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To: DesertRhino; deplorableindc
On the other hand, if the GOP wants libertarian votes, maybe they need to offer them more than they have been. Pretty much our approach seems to be, “vote for the us because the dems are worse, but we will do nothing special to earn your vote, AND we don’t really care about anything you care about anyway.”

With that mentality, expect them to run their own guy again and again.

Well said. Why not work with them, or at least try, instead of ignoring them.

34 posted on 11/06/2017 6:18:21 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: DesertRhino
If the GOP looks at his list of positions and cannot find a way to have common cause with him, that tells us more about the Virginia GOP than it does the Libertarian.

The GOP stopped believing in limited government some time ago.

35 posted on 11/06/2017 6:19:45 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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Virginia Libertarians, a.k.a. supporters of Demwit party's straw candidate. Thanks deplorableindc.
36 posted on 11/06/2017 9:50:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: marktwain

Yep - not a rare occasion that when enough folks vote for the truly best candidate in a race, the absolute worst one wins....the moral of the story is that politics is so messed up that second best is the best you might ever do.....except in rare occasions like the Presidential elections in 1980, 1984, 2016, and hopefully 2020.....


37 posted on 11/07/2017 2:41:53 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Carry me back

Lots of people moving to Virginia. Hoping they’re not bringing their evil ways with them!


38 posted on 11/07/2017 7:01:25 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: deplorableindc

ACU‏Verified account @ACUConservative 1h1 hour ago

It's #ElectionDay in #VA! ACU endorsed @EdWGillespie in June, and we're proud to say to Virginians today to get out and #VoteEdGillespie!

39 posted on 11/07/2017 8:53:50 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom
"The American Conservative Union has just released a statement in support of Sen. Marco Rubio's bipartisan effort on immigration reform, suggesting that there was widespread conservative support for the bill." - May 9, 2013 - Washington Examiner
40 posted on 11/07/2017 1:20:30 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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