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"Kelley was found a short distance away in his crashed vehicle, dead from a bullet wound. He had several more guns in his car, but the hostage was unhurt."

Hostage? First I heard of that.

1 posted on 11/06/2017 4:03:32 AM PST by ETL
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45 posted on 11/06/2017 4:39:41 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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“He was always talking about how people who believe in God were stupid and trying to preach his atheism.”

Militant atheists always seem to have this same unproven self assessment of superior intellect.

49 posted on 11/06/2017 4:44:06 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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I am amazed at the news we get in UK papers while our own media is generally clueless.


53 posted on 11/06/2017 4:46:26 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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>>> Mr Willeford, a plumber with no military experience, shot him in the side through a gap in his body armour, forcing the killer to flee.

No military experience, but I bet he hunts/has hunted before.


58 posted on 11/06/2017 4:57:15 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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“shot him in the side through a gap in his body armour, forcing the killer to flee.”

He was shot with a rifle. Unless he was wearing plates (which we have not been told he was), the citizen could have shot him anywhere. Kevlar and other soft body armor can’t stop rifle cartridges.

If you only own a pistol, buy a rifle and train with it.


60 posted on 11/06/2017 5:04:18 AM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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Good that it was Texas, California would have thanked him and then prosecuted him.


61 posted on 11/06/2017 5:04:26 AM PST by umgud
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“Police are still trying to establish whether Kelley died from Mr Willeford’s shot, or if he committed suicide.”

Blondie infobabe on FNC today said the gunshot was “self inflicted”. I kind-of don’t believe that. I’m more inclined to believe that Mr. Willeford’s shot was the one that did him in — the reason the car went off the road the way it did. If he was going to shoot himself, it seems he would’ve pulled over normally instead of stopping after “losing control”.

Knowing the MSM’s opinion of firearms, I’m thinking they don’t want to give credit to an armed civilian for taking out the freak.


65 posted on 11/06/2017 5:08:34 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (A person's greatest strength is his greatest weakness.)
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This needs to be shouted from the roof tops to all the “gun control” hysterics in politics and the media:

It was a private citizen with his personal firearm that stopped this monster and prevented even more deaths!

67 posted on 11/06/2017 5:13:29 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Police are still trying to establish whether Kelley died from Mr Willeford’s shot, or if he committed suicide.

Maybe they should ask the hostage.

73 posted on 11/06/2017 5:26:50 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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“Freeman Martin, regional director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said: “The suspect dropped his rifle, which was a Ruger AR assault-type rifle, ... “

Dear Commander Dumbass:
`AR’ means Armalite, not “assault-type rifle”.
America’s Gun Owners


76 posted on 11/06/2017 5:28:47 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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Personal connection to someone in the church.

What I thought it would be.


83 posted on 11/06/2017 5:42:25 AM PST by redgolum
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That’s two positive reports from British publications that appear to applaud a non-police resident’s use of a weapon to stop a murderer. I’m pleasantly surprised!


87 posted on 11/06/2017 5:47:15 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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This is the first we’ve heard about a hostage.

Two good men sent this monster straight to hell before he could hurt anyone else.


91 posted on 11/06/2017 6:06:45 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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You get alot of information bouncing around after a situation like this. Everyone posts bits and pieces of stories you hear.
It’s possible that the reports of a hostage come from callers witnessing the chase.
They see a pickup truck with an armed man in the passenger seat and assume its a guy with a hostage , but it turns out it’s the good-guy chasing the shooter.


93 posted on 11/06/2017 6:08:53 AM PST by VicVanleeuwenhoek
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...Speaking at a news conference in Japan, Mr Trump said: ...

That would be President Trump to you, you Limey basta*d
98 posted on 11/06/2017 6:15:10 AM PST by Spruce
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A plumber???? A toxic-masculinity, white-privelege deplorable?!


99 posted on 11/06/2017 6:16:25 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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Why we’re seeing a near media blackout on this story:

Shooter was left wing antifa - one of their own

Shooter was Godless atheist - again, one of their own

Shooter was put down by a good guy with a gun - does not fit the media’s anti-gun narrative.


106 posted on 11/06/2017 6:30:54 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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Fox aired rumors of a possible hostage but nothing definite.

Would wager the plumber who shot through the gap in the armor is a successful hunter that doesn't suffer "buck fever"...guy has my respect.

111 posted on 11/06/2017 6:47:54 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Hostage? My thoughts too.


112 posted on 11/06/2017 6:49:00 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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“He [mass murderer Devin Kelley] served in logistics readiness”

“Logistics Readiness:” PC talk for REMF warehouse weenie.


113 posted on 11/06/2017 6:51:10 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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