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Trump’s tax proposal won’t actually help the middle class.
Washington Post ^ | 19 Oct 17 | By Catherine Rampell

Posted on 10/21/2017 1:59:09 PM PDT by SkyPilot

President Trump campaigned on helping the little guy. His latest tax proposal, he says, is about helping the middle guy.

“It’s a middle-class bill,” Trump promised an audience of truckers last week.

Other administration officials and House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) have also claimed that their primary objective in reconfiguring the tax code is to help the middle class, not the wealthy.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; gop; middleclass; tax; trump; trumptaxcuts; trumptaxplan
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To: Mariner

“Of course the average commie Social Justice Warrior is cool with that. They are all up for “taxing the rich”.

I had no idea they supported Trump’s tax plan. This thing will pass BIGLY !


181 posted on 10/21/2017 6:49:59 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: xzins

Why would prices drop? What is the incentive to do so?


182 posted on 10/21/2017 7:01:30 PM PDT by redgolum
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To: SkyPilot
You believe in Plank #2 of the Communist Manifesto.

I bet you believe in Planks #1, #3 and #10 too.

183 posted on 10/21/2017 7:05:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (You can't have totalitarian globalist government if the peasants are armed.)
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To: gop4lyf

In high-tax states like NJ, tripling the standard deduction probably will not offset the lost credits for property taxes and mortgage interest (if those are both targeted).

These deductions are among the few real incentives to buy a home; home ownership is already shaky, and it appears we are heading towards a massive change in how people make living arrangements. We are already seeing in young people a trend where large numbers will never buy a home or car, or invest in children; the consequences of these trends are already seen in the Third Worldization of areas with the highest costs of living. The ultra-rich in NYC and LA are increasingly surrounded by areas devoid of American taxpayers, where imported hordes speak a babble of tongues.


184 posted on 10/21/2017 7:08:45 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Mariner

All the proposals I’ve seen doubles the standard deduction and lowers the tax rate and narrows the brackets to three.


185 posted on 10/21/2017 7:09:34 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

AND increases the net tax paid by anyone who makes between $80k and $160k per year.

And jams their 401k too.


186 posted on 10/21/2017 7:11:30 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

your nuts and Sooooo wrong but blinded by your own wants / greed and you have made it personal over one simple aspect. Something neither you or your little ping nutty Buddy never even asked - do I agree with the tax plan - No. but not for the reason in this post. There is so much to hate about it. But SALT ain’t one of them.


187 posted on 10/21/2017 7:16:13 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: redgolum

Because some competitor will. It’s why we love capitalism.


188 posted on 10/21/2017 7:18:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. L)
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To: SkyPilot

If you ran the numbers with the current rates and tax brackets it won’t work as they plan on changing them to lower rates and fewer brackets. They also plan on doubling the standard deduction to 12K for S and 24K for M, and keeping the mortgage and charitable contributions deductions.

You sure have got your panties in a wad over this, maybe you should calm down until the final product is put out for review.


189 posted on 10/21/2017 7:18:24 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Mariner

I haven’t seen anything about capping 401K from a reliable source. But definitely wouldn’t like that. Maxing out my 401K, and I was fortunate to have an additional 457 plan for highly compensated management, was what really saved me from paying high taxes when I was working.


190 posted on 10/21/2017 7:24:11 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: SkyPilot
Deductibility of state and local taxes has the effect of shifting the tax burden for, say, New York taxpayers to the rest of us...in effect, taxation without representation.

Let New York taxpayers (for example) pay the entire tab for the services from which they benefit.

191 posted on 10/21/2017 7:27:53 PM PDT by gogeo (Leftists are a parasite that destroys the host.)
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To: wgmalabama

You speak as if I wrote something factually incorrect.

State what was incorrect.


192 posted on 10/21/2017 7:38:26 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Ee don’t know the brackets yet


193 posted on 10/21/2017 8:00:18 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. L)
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To: SkyPilot

You aren’t being screwed.


194 posted on 10/21/2017 8:08:40 PM PDT by gogeo (Leftists are a parasite that destroys the host.)
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To: SkyPilot

The fact is, when corporate taxes go down, wages go up.

This tax bill does no such punishment to anyone! The federal government has nothing to do with the tax and spend politicians that are running their states.

So, stop crying about it!


195 posted on 10/21/2017 8:33:37 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Brown Deer

I call it “California Screamin’.”


196 posted on 10/21/2017 8:36:54 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: gop4lyf

If it spurs business growth it will help the middle class immensley


197 posted on 10/21/2017 8:53:06 PM PDT by armourenthusiast (Trumperific)
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To: sparklite2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o25rTPpv3o


198 posted on 10/21/2017 9:06:04 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Brown Deer

LOL
I guess it was inevitable.


199 posted on 10/21/2017 9:16:12 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Mr Rogers
If businesses in America grow, why do you think that is bad? What part of a vibrant economy makes you mad?

Problem is; in decades past windfalls from corporate tax breaks were passed on to the stockholders and were also used for investments, in China and Mexico...And although Trump wouldn't be too keen on that idea I don't believe there are any mechanisms in place to prevent it from happening again...

200 posted on 10/21/2017 9:17:37 PM PDT by Iscool
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