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The death of the gas-powered car, in one chart (Liberal wet dream!)
MarketWatch ^ | 10/17/17 | Claudia Assis

Posted on 10/17/2017 10:52:16 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

A global tipping point for electric cars could come as early as 2022, as battery costs decrease and concerns about range and infrastructure ease. That’s from analysts at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, who in a little over a year’s time have turned even more optimistic about the future dominance of electric cars over internal-combustion vehicles. In a Tuesday note, the analysts forecast that one in three cars will be purely electric by 2030; their July 2016 prediction was one in 10 by the same year. “There are several factors converging that have led us to revise our thinking — a combination of changing customer preferences, increasingly viable product, regulation, and infrastructure,” they said in the note.

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To: ridesthemiles

You seem to forget that such a large scale power outage will also kill the pumps that pump the fuel into your vehicle. If you run out of fuel in the affected area, your car also cannot ‘get charged & going again’ until the electricity powering those fuel pumps is restored.

IF you happen to have a fuel tank at home, with a hand pump, that is a different story.


161 posted on 10/17/2017 12:11:57 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: ctdonath2
...It’s an option, folks...

So far. Overseas? Perhaps not so much.

162 posted on 10/17/2017 12:12:20 PM PDT by wbill
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To: kaktuskid

Most trains are in fact electric (to wit “hybrid”) because of the enormous torque.

Tesla is about to release their all-electric semi.

There’s an all-electric giant dump truck in use now.

Electric motors have amazing torque. Battery packs are the limiting factor, not torque.


163 posted on 10/17/2017 12:12:23 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: TexasGator

https://www.tesla.com/supercharger

Each year, owners receive 400 kWh of free Supercharger credit, enough to drive about 1,000 miles. These credits cover the long distance driving needs of most owners, so road trips are completely free. Customers who travel beyond the annual credit pay a small fee to Supercharge—only a fraction of the cost of gas.


164 posted on 10/17/2017 12:12:40 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

You can siphon gas in a pinch.


165 posted on 10/17/2017 12:13:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mike-o-Matic

“if it’s not winter, “

Up here in cold country we use our car heaters >6 mos out of the year. It’s not uncommon during 3 of those months to be sub-freezing - if not sub-zero - for WEEKS at a time.

How many times a year would it be it acceptable to you to fear you’re going to suffer frostbite?


166 posted on 10/17/2017 12:14:13 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“The current undersized neighborhood transformers are not set up to have a significant portion or more charging cars overnight.”

Set up for lights, tv, AC, and stoves which draw more than a car charger and are not being used at 1 am when cars are charging.


167 posted on 10/17/2017 12:15:17 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Uh, I _did_ respond to what you said - very precisely.
Grid load drops significantly at night, when most EVs are charging. Electric companies are begging people to consume more power during that time, so they can sell surplus capacity that they have difficulty shutting down then.


168 posted on 10/17/2017 12:15:20 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: jonno

EVs have heaters, ya know.


169 posted on 10/17/2017 12:16:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

Yep. Please see:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3595816/posts?page=132#132


170 posted on 10/17/2017 12:19:09 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: TexasGator

Not here in Florida with Irma. We took 10 gallons of gas with us or we would still be in the garage trying to put some charge into a go cart if we had one.


171 posted on 10/17/2017 12:19:12 PM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: TexasGator
I invite you to make a trip on I-80 from San Fran to Chicago. See how far you get beteen ‘charging stations’ across Nevada-—Utah-—Wyoming—Nebraska, etc. I suggest you have food & blankets with you. It is a long way to the ‘next place’ all across those states.”

They aren't going to take that trip during the winter. I live in central Illinois and have a supercharging station at the cross roads of I74 and I57. I just saw Florida plates at the charging station the other day. During the winter time I hardly see anyone using the station. I've never seen more than 2 cars at the charging station even in good weather.

172 posted on 10/17/2017 12:20:21 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Some areas in Fl require a separate power system to power the gas pumps if the electricity goes down. BTW, when leaving fora hurricane, one is generally ahead of the loss of power areas. Therefore, unless they run dry, they can pump gas. How long does it take to recharge a low battery if one can find a charging station?


173 posted on 10/17/2017 12:21:39 PM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: dfwgator

If you don’t own the other vehicle, you could have a problem. Some of the ‘survivalist’ FReepers may also ‘add a little lead to your diet’ if it is their car that is being siphoned!


174 posted on 10/17/2017 12:24:56 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: TexasGator

“95% of charging is done at home while the driver sleeps.”


And the other 5% is done at a gas station on a “cross-country trip” (any distance over 150 miles) while the kids fight and your spouse curses at you for being a tree hugging hippie.


175 posted on 10/17/2017 12:24:59 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: EVO X

You get a referral code from existing owner and your car gets free for life.


176 posted on 10/17/2017 12:25:17 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

E cars don’t pay road taxes, so: no roads!

Anyway, China says people will use E cars, so people will use E cars.


177 posted on 10/17/2017 12:27:57 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

“And the other 5% is done at a gas station on a “cross-country trip” (any distance over 150 miles) while the kids fight and your spouse curses at you for being a tree hugging hippie.”

LOL. TESLA has over 10,000 supercharging stations! 20 minutes gets you 200 miles and the wife and kids get free wifi!


178 posted on 10/17/2017 12:28:56 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: Mouton

LOL. With IRMA we had power but the tanks were empty!


179 posted on 10/17/2017 12:30:16 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
It's a hell of a lot quicker to put 20 gallons of gas in your tank than to wait for your car to recharge.

Electric cars are not feasible for many necessary tasks. Besides not having range, they suck at hauling and the amount of time needed for charging.

There were times just in the last year where I've made several trips in the same day, each time hauling 1,000 pounds of debris to the dumps in my Nissan truck. No way could an electric handle that, it's charge would be completely depleted trying to just get the vehicle moving. Like you said, I have range and easy refueling in my gasoline powered vehicle... and heavy hauling capability in repeated trips.

Electric vehicles are no-go for this family.

180 posted on 10/17/2017 12:30:41 PM PDT by roadcat
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