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Do Mike Pence's Morality Guidelines Now Make Sense After Harvey Weinstein Allegations?
Christian Post ^ | 10/17/2017 | Michael Brown

Posted on 10/17/2017 10:03:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In light of the flood of allegations against Harvey Weinstein, the left's extreme reaction to Vice President Pence's personal morality guidelines now seems even more absurd. Mothers and fathers of America, who would you rather have your daughters work for, Weinstein or Pence? Young ladies of America, for whom would you rather work and with whom would you feel safer, Weinstein or Pence?

According to a Washington Post article, "In 2002, Mike Pence told the Hill that he never eats alone with a woman other than his wife and that he won't attend events featuring alcohol without her by his side, either."

Sounds reasonable and wise to me. Nothing extreme or unusual from my point of view or in the circles in which I travel, especially if you are a powerful leader or a person of influence.

But that's not how many on the left saw it. As I noted in April, "The left's bizarre and almost hysterical reaction to Vice President Pence's personal marital guidelines is not only totally off point. It actually misses the most essential point of all, namely, that it is Pence's high esteem for women – specifically, the most important woman in his life, his own wife – that fuels his moral choices. At the same time, the leftist response reveals a glaring blind spot when it comes to self-awareness."

Yes, the response from the left was an outright denial of human nature. The fact is that we humans can do all kinds of creepy, ugly things, things that are despicable and shameful. It's embarrassing, but it's true.

Vice President Pence, being aware of his humanity, knows all too well how easy it is to fall. That's why he made it his habit to take certain precautions – in the best interests of his marriage, his own life, and the women he worked with. Again, it makes perfect sense to me.

Now, with more and more women saying, "Me too! I've been sexually abused," we realize just how epidemic this problem is in our culture. In other words, it's not just the Harvey Weinsteins who are allegedly guilty. There are many other abusers out there, from rapists who prey on strangers to adults who abuse children to bosses who abuse their employees.

And this is nothing new. It's as old as the human race, which is why the Bible addresses sexual sin from Genesis to Revelation, exposing even some of Israel's most famous leaders (including Samson and David and Solomon).

That's why Paul also puts sexual sin at the top of his lists of sins of the flesh (see, for example, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10), and that's why the Book of Proverbs (the book of wisdom par excellence) contains so many lengthy warnings about the dangers of sexual sin (see especially Proverbs 5 and 7). That's also why Jesus warned against it so strongly (see Matthew 5:27-30).

As Paul so wisely wrote, "Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall" (1 Cor. 10:12).

When our daughters were growing up, I would explain to them how teenaged boys would try to check them out and how lust-filled they could be. Our girls first reacted with shock and protest, thinking this was gross and impossible. "No way, Dad!" But it wasn't long before they realized I was telling them the truth. Boys will be boys! (And all too often, in the bad sense of the word, men will be men – including dirty old men.) It's true that most men are not sexual predators. But I'm pretty sure that if the secret thoughts of most men could be revealed, they wouldn't be all that wholesome. And in a sexually-charged culture like ours today, where women are expected to wear suggestive and skimpy attire (and some love to do so), where seductive images greet you on countless websites, where your junk folder is filled with invitations to chat rooms, where prostitution and stripping are glorified, where 8-year-olds access porn on their cell phones, we need to be all the more vigilant.

Let us, then, encourage sexual purity and marital fidelity. And rather than mock the Mike Pences of this world, we should commend them.

(For more practical steps that can be taken, see the chapter, "From Playboy to Purity: Reversing the Sexual Revolution" in Saving a Sick America: A Prescription for Moral and Cultural Transformation.)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christians; harveyweinstein; mikepence; morality
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1 posted on 10/17/2017 10:03:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They made sense before the Weinstein scandal


2 posted on 10/17/2017 10:06:47 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes! His values made sense before. It just shows you how depraved liberals really are. Their minds are sick. I have the same policy. I will not go anywhere alone with another woman. I won’t meet behind closed doors with another woman.


3 posted on 10/17/2017 10:13:33 AM PDT by youthphil
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To: SeekAndFind

And while we’re sort of on the topic of objectifying women, can we stop declaring a woman not guilty because she looks good?


4 posted on 10/17/2017 10:15:00 AM PDT by youthphil
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To: SeekAndFind

This reminds me of something I heard from Billy Graham. When he became a Pastor he set two non-negotiable rules for himself as leader of the church: 1) Never be alone with any woman other than my wife and 2)Never touch or have access to the money.


5 posted on 10/17/2017 10:15:28 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Nifster

Yes. Pence’s rules made sense before all this. Not just morally, but legally and common-sense wise.Too many women making false claims these days. A false allegation against you and your career may be over despite there being no evidence to support the charge.


6 posted on 10/17/2017 10:16:20 AM PDT by Kipp
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To: youthphil

Ehhh...no.


7 posted on 10/17/2017 10:16:27 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: SeekAndFind

True, the hip left laughed at him.


8 posted on 10/17/2017 10:35:03 AM PDT by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mike Pence’s values used to be America’s values.


9 posted on 10/17/2017 10:43:03 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: SeekAndFind

I understand the part about resisting temptation by removing temptation, but Pence’s rule makes sense for defensive purposes also...as a gathering wave of false accusations prepares to break over male bosses everywhere.

Don’t put yourself in a situation where some conniving female can falsely accuse you of harassment.


10 posted on 10/17/2017 10:49:35 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: bigbob

Most pastors use the same methods to keep their job and family safe. Nothing new about this or particularly insulting.


11 posted on 10/17/2017 10:52:45 AM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: SeekAndFind

The response from the left to the Pence story should have convinced everyone that a lot of people in this country don’t even belong on the same planet.


12 posted on 10/17/2017 10:56:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: buffaloguy

I know a pastor who will not get on elevator if the female is alone even if he is accompanied by someone else.

Downright Victorian in a role reversal way.


13 posted on 10/17/2017 11:12:43 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: youthphil

I’m about the same. I think the last time I was alone at all with another woman was at least 6 years ago and that was driving to a meeting.

There have been a couple times I’ve had to travel for work with a female colleague. Outside of traveling to the customer and maybe a quick dinner, I would avoid being alone. I never asked for their hotel room number and in some cases, never even had their cell phone number. “Meet you in the lobby at 7.”

I work in a make dominated field and my department is all guys. I can go entire weeks without even speaking to other women besides my wife and maybe my daughters.


14 posted on 10/17/2017 11:15:02 AM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Perhaps Pence, in his youth, read Thomas Jefferson's advice to young Thomas Jefferson Smith, which included the following:
"Who never did a slander forge, his neighbor's fame to wound,
Nor hearken to a false report, by malice whispered round.
Who vice, in all its pomp and power, can treat with just neglect;
And piety, though clothed in rags, religiously respect.
Who to his plighted vows and trust has ever firmly stood,
And though he promise to his loss, he makes his promise good.
Whose soul in usury disdains his treasure to employ,
Whom no rewards can ever bribe the guiltless to destroy.
The man who, by this steady course, has happiness insur'd,
When earth's foundations shake, shall stand, by Providence secur'd."
- Thomas Jefferson, February 21, 1825, Letter to Thomas Jefferson Smith

15 posted on 10/17/2017 11:21:38 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


16 posted on 10/17/2017 12:25:21 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to the left, they don’t.


17 posted on 10/17/2017 12:43:51 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: youthphil

You seem to be suffering from a severe case of satire deficiency syndrome.

The whole “guilty/not-guilty” shtick amounts to a satirical commentary on the fact that attractive women are often given a pass, where an unattractive woman (or any man) would have received punishment.


18 posted on 10/17/2017 1:21:34 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I get the satire, but I think it’s gotten to be a bit of a cliche.


19 posted on 10/17/2017 4:33:03 PM PDT by youthphil
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To: youthphil

You’re right about that.


20 posted on 10/17/2017 4:38:02 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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