This is a core difference between Canada and the US, and why I prefer the US: “Canadians across the political spectrum recognize that were not a series of individuals, but a society.”
And this demonstrates the flaw in socialistic thinking: “We recognize our shared obligation to look out for each other, and we know that when we do, everyone prospers.”
There is a difference between prospering and being happy and feel like you are in control of your own destiny. Helping others is always a good thing. Forcing other people to help others is always a bad thing, even if the “others” are helped.
Re the article:
It (universal healthcare) is great when it works, you get the referrals you need, and timely care. But, we often hear horror stories about people coming to the US for care because it isn’t available in Canada. A couple of happy outcomes are just data points, not a real survey. How do we balance them out.
A second question: In the US, we have a major party (Dems, of course) that is hell-bent on importing as many non-white locked-in future voters as possible, and giving them all sorts of preferences and benefits. Of these, full medical care will be one of the more expensive. How does Canada deal with immigration in the face of expensive and universal benefits such as healthcare?
You can post all the BS fairy tale propaganda you want but it won’t make any difference to people that actually know the truth. Tens of thousands of Canadians cross the border to get medical care in the US every year because they can’t get what they need in Canada. Canadians sometimes have to wait so long to see the specialist they need to see that the damage is irreversible or they die. Some treatments or drugs are simply not available. You have NO CHOICES under national health care systems, you are just a piece of meat and you do what you’re told. Some hospitals are awful but if they send you there you are stuck. You may wait for hours for an ambulance. There are thousands of horror stories about Canadian health care so stick your Socialist nonsense in your ear.
*SMH*
I don't even know where to start, but this quote is laughable on it's face. Absolutely nothing bi-partisan about it, other than the John Kasich's of the world heeling like a dog when it came to the Medicaid expansion. Yeah it works out terrific for Canadians who can get emergency care without a hitch but are wealthy enough to go to the US to get anything else without waiting forever.
Additionally US health care providers are oriented to providing "customer care" to their patients. Their patients seem to believe that they can participate in any lifestyle they desire and if something goes wrong, like type 2 diabetes or heart disease, they expect the health care system to cure them, hopefully with a few pills. Canadian doctors are far more inclined to tell their patients to lose weight, get more exercise, avoid certain foods, and pay more attention to their own health.
Yeah, and I had a girlfriend whose aunt in Canada had stage 3 breast cancer and she couldnt get to see a doctor until it had progressed to stage 4, which they declared untreatable. She died. Badly. But because she wasnt treated before it was stage 4, she doesnt show up in the fake stats they keep.
Socialized medicine = death.
Now tell us the story where you are 85 in need of heart surgery. Let’s see how your Canadian system works out for you?
Or you are a disabled vet and in the United States VA system, have pneumonia and in need of a bed and due to the reduction of available beds since 1972 cannot find one. What will you do then?
Neither the VA system nor Canada’s health care system is the way to go. Period. Competition in an open and free market system will be the only way to drive costs down as it has countless times with every other product on the market. When regulators instill a myriad of obstacles and roadblocks costs skyrocket with the inclusion of regulations. A few regulations are needed for safety, granted, but not 15 layers deep covering the same thing. These needed regulations should by no way be cost prohibited. With open competition comes the buyers voice, the buyer who likes a given service or product will exclaim proudly and openly about such. This travels and more come to buy. Bad service or product, bye-bye birdie. Healthcare is a monopoly at this time and removes the voice of the buyer.
A few years back I had surgery in Bellingham, WA. It seemed like one out of every 4 people in the hospital was a Canadian. The stories I heard were that a heart bypass surgery in Canada could be scheduled over a year out, or that there was a six month wait for a simple MRI. I was told that your generic GP was expected to see 47 patients in one day, or in other words, a 10 minute visit, non stop, and you have to look damned hard just to find any doctor who will accept you as a patient. You might find a veterinarian. Canadian medical is what “free” gets you...plus a 50% tax rate; you can’t afford it when you need it.
My experience was a little different. Remember going to the post office, standing in long lines while most of the service windows were closed, finally getting to the front only to be ‘served’ by a surly prick, and seeing behind him postal workers sitting on their asses in aimless conversation?
Welcome to the medical clinic.
And yes,I know that my one personal experience with Canadian medicine (a very unpleasant one) doesn't prove that theirs is a bad system but I know far more about their system than what I learned from that lone visit.
The tyranny of the anecdote: if leftists can find one poor slob who benefits from their idiotic policies, it’s enough to defeat incontrovertible logic, moral truth and human nature.
There seemed to be way too much “We don’t know what it was” in that story
Don’t listen to this asshat.
I’m from Canada too. Moved down to the US in 1995.
I’ve got a far different view.
My sister, who has Cerebral Palsy, can walk, but her left angle has begun turning inwards, making it so she is walking on her ankle.
She has been waiting 18 months to see a specialist. No appointment yet.
After routine surgery, my mother developed complications, and as a tragic complication was left with minimal brain activity.
No death panels - the on duty staff decided her fate.
First, they cut off her feeding tube.
Then, they cut off her water.
Then, they cut off her oxygen.
When I demanded to know why, the on duty nurse stated, “we need the bed”.
Canada’s health care is great if you need to fix a broken arm, or get a cut stitched up.
But for anything serious, you’re screwed.
What good is “free” healthcare if you die?
He has a pregnant wife, and roommates? Congrats to the father, whomever.
For us to do the same thing in today's world would be a huge cost. If it will cost California somewhere around $400 Billion in just that state, then how much nationwide. Several Trillion Dollars Maybe? Then how to pay for it, California is talking about adding a 13% wages tax.
Sounds beautiful and Utopian until those pesky details of how to pay for it and implement it.
One story does not a system make.
I’m certain many have had a pleasant experience with the VA, however the guy who called the suicide hotline to be put on hold is now dead.
Some of my Canadian relatives have had some bad experiences and do not share the author’s gratitude