Posted on 10/13/2017 10:15:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Shortly after my son was born, in late December 2015, he stopped breathing. Let me tell you: having the worst thing you could possibly imagine happen right after the most joyous, wonderful moment of your life is quite an emotional trip. It had already been a difficult pregnancy. My wife had developed gestational diabetes, which required weekly checkups where nurses could monitor our babys heartbeat for hours at a time, as well as regular consultations regarding her diet and caloric intake, so any potential harmful effects of the disease would be minimized. We also had to closely monitor her blood pressure and blood sugar levels at home, and eventually had to begin giving her twice-daily insulin injections. So, when the moment of truth finally arrived, we were both extremely relieved that his delivery went about as smoothly as could be expected. At first, anyways.
It was very surreal. One minute, my brain is flooding with endorphins and tears are streaming down my face as Im staring in awe at this perfect, tiny little person, the culmination of this incredible 9-month journey; the next, a nurse notices somethings not right, snatches him away urgently, a loud klaxon starts going off, the room starts filling up with more nurses and doctors, who I notice are exchanging serious, concerned looks with one another, no one is answering our questionsit was horrifying. I still havent really recovered from it. (Hes fine, though. He just needed a few minutes to learn how things worked in the outside-the-womb world.)
Still, he needed to stay for two days in the ICU so the doctors could confirm there wasnt anything seriously wrong with him. And once they deemed him healthy enough to be released and we were allowed to bring him home with us, he almost immediately turned yellow. He looked like a real life Simpsons character. So, we brought him back to the hospital where he had to return to the ICU for another few days of intense phototherapy to get rid of his jaundice, while my wife stayed with him day and night, as he needed to be on a very strict feeding schedule. The entire experiencewhich lasted about a week and a half but felt like yearswas quite stressful.
So it was nice that during that entire period, we never had to think about what his several days of intensive care was going to cost in addition to the medical care wed already received, or whether our insurance company would pay for all or just part of it. Once he returned to a normal human complexion, we simply bundled him up, left the hospital and never looked back (except to bring a gift basket to the incredible nursing team there). Thats because we live in Canada and, as such, enjoy universal healthcare. Of all the times in my life Ive had to interact with the Canadian healthcare system, this was by far the most significant. But Ive got more stories. Its been there for me time and time again.
Sometime around summer 2006, I started to feel a little queasy, and then proceeded to throw up a few times an hour for about the next 12 hours or so. I threw up so much that I ruptured all the blood vessels in my eyeballs which, combined with my deathly pale complexion, cold sweat sheen, and inability to stand or speak properly due to extreme dehydration, made me look like a literal zombie. Eventually my two roommates brought me to the hospital, where I was admitted immediately after the emergency room nurse looked at my wretched state for about half a second. Have you ever really, really needed morphine and then gotten it? Its terrific. After a few days of resting there and being rehydrated through an IV drip, I felt well enough to leave. Im not sure that they ever actually figured out what specifically was wrong, but I never experienced anything like that again, so whatever they did, it worked. The hospital stay cost me nothing, which was good because I was an under-employed student at the time and would have had no ability to pay for it otherwise.
After my band played a showcase at South by Southwest in Austin in 2008, I ingested such an absurd amount of Tex Mex, BBQ and beer that on the 20+ hour drive back to Canada, my right big toe swelled up to twice its normal size, as if I was a Looney Tunes character who just had a comically large anvil dropped on his foot. I was trying to sleep on the floor in the rear of our beaten up Ford Econoline and every slight bump in the highway sent waves of excruciating pain from the tip of my foot to the base of my skull. I assumed I had gotten drunk and broken it somehow, as that was something that 2008 me could very well have done. So once we returned to Canada (since obviously, getting it checked out in the US was not an option), I went to have it looked at, and found out that I was one of the unlucky 2% of Canadians who suffer from gout. Its embarrassing to admit this, as its a disease thats typically associated with gluttonous, inbred monarchs, and Im neither inbred nor a monarch, but it is what it is. Still, while its been a recurring issue in years since, if I ever notice any pain coming on, I can just go to the local free clinic and get a prescription to take care of it. No big deal.
One final example: while we were busy raising our son last year, my mom, a retired teacher who was the picture of good health, was diagnosed with breast cancer. She was very lucky, as for women approaching 70, routine mammograms arent always given a major emphasis as far as medical care goes. But it was caught in the very early stages, which led to a second mammogram, then an ultrasound, an MRI, and finally a mastectomy and subsequent regimen of estrogen-blocking drug Tamoxifen. There are plenty of horror stories that get circulated about our healthcare system where patients wait so long on waiting lists that they either expire or seek treatment in the US, but in my mothers case, this entire processfrom initial checkup to major surgerylasted two months.
This example is particularly important because it perfectly encapsulates why a universal care system is not only more humane than a market-based one, but also much more efficient. If my mother hadnt had access to quality preventive care, she wouldnt have found out she was sick until it was far too late, which would have meant significantly higher medical costs, on top of the reality that she likely would have died. Thats the definition of a lose-lose scenario, and thats the kind of thing that makes Americas health care system the most expensive per capita in the world, while still not being close to adequate as far as actually meeting peoples medical needs.
I could keep going on, but the major point Im attempting to make in all this is that any time Ive needed the Canadian healthcare system to be there for me or my loved ones, it has been. And Im not trying to pretend that we live in some kind of fantasyland socialist utopia. There are many ways our system could be improved. For example, while we might be able to see a doctor free of charge, we still dont have universal pharmacare. When I was prescribed Adderall a few years agoafter the symptoms of ADHD I had been experiencing for years were beginning to feel unbearableI was really only able to afford to purchase it with the help of the insurance plan Im on through my wifes employer. This is the same with counseling and mental health services and dental care. Our nurses are overworked, understaffed and dont get paid enough. If youre not seriously hurt, you might face some long wait times at the emergency room. The list goes on. These are all things that Canadians can and should be fighting to improve.
But for any flaws that happen to be in our system, not even the most conservative of Canadians would want to trade it in for anything else. And personally, I can still say with 100% certainty that Ive never once felt an iota of anxiety with regards to whether or not I was going to be able to afford medical treatment. Ive never once considered that a serious illness might bankrupt me or a loved one. I havent had to ration medication because I didnt know when Id be able to afford a refill, or had to choose between having a preventive examination for an issue I was experiencing or just toughing it out until it became too severe to ignore. If youre an under-insured American, this concept might sound like paradise. But this is just the reality of life with universal healthcare. And theres really no reason at all that Americans cant enjoy the same experience.
In fact, if youd like some friendly advice, I would say that you should regard any politician or pundit that says universal healthcare can never happen in America with extreme skepticism, if not outright hostility. Theyll tell you its too expensive, and hey, theres no two ways about it: health care is definitely expensive. But arent we always being told that America is the wealthiest nation in the world? In the history of the world even? Somehow, whenever the drumbeats for war start up, there magically happens to be a spare few billion or so found, apparently just waiting to be spent. Whether or not the Republicans get their way and enact their cruel health care plan/tax cut, their intentions have been made clear and Democrats must respond by promising to fight for an alternative where no one gets left behind. And Im sorry, but a policy cooked up by right wing think tanks which reforms and slightly improves a broken system but still leaves millions uninsured is simply not going to cut it. Its the best we can do is not a winning political message, and if thats all Democrats are going to offer in 2018 and beyond, they will lose, and any supposed left-leaning person or organization that continues to insist that such a system is impossible or not feasible is either severely misinformed or trying to sell you something.
Yes, of course the GOP control all the levers of power in the US government at the moment and theyre not going to be signing universal health care into law any time soon. But theyre certainly not going to be signing the Market Stability and Premium Reduction Act that the apparently progressive Center for American Progress is proposing either. Were often told by Very Serious People that the American left should forget purity tests and that only pragmatic, incrementalist compromises like this have a chance of garnering support in congress. These delusional people seem to believe that we live in a reality where a single Republican will even consider one of their ideas, let alone vote for it, while it has been completely obvious to anyone paying remote attention over the last decade or more that this is just as much of a pie-in-the-sky delusion as the most outrageous, left-wing proposals. Its important to remember that Obamas ACA was itself an effort to put forward a sensible, bipartisan compromise that could unify both left and right, and he was rewarded for his efforts by being called a Kenyan socialist who wanted to murder peoples grandparents.
So, since any so-called pragmatic policy has precisely the same chances of political success as single-payer in the current political climate, and since Americans actually like the idea of universal health care and have repeatedly rejected the kinds of wonky, technocratic solutions beloved by serious centrists, the strategy moving forward, at least to this outside observer, seems pretty clear. If Democrats began to unapologetically fight for universal health care right now, it would be providing a clear alternative to the apocalyptic vision of America the Republicans are pushing and would be a winning campaign strategy. And theres also the fact that it happens to be the correct thing to do from a moral standpoint, too.
Our taxes are pretty high in Canada. Particularly in Quebec. But its funny, once you can point to a handful of incidents where your tax dollars bought you a vital service that saved you massive amounts of pain and anxiety, paying taxes doesnt seem like such a bad thing. And even if youre in perfect health, Canadians across the political spectrum recognize that were not a series of individuals, but a society. We recognize our shared obligation to look out for each other, and we know that when we do, everyone prospers. So while our healthcare system may be imperfect, its been there for me and the people I care about for my entire life, just like its there for millions of Canadians every single day. And Americans can have it too, if they decide to fight for it.
The tyranny of the anecdote: if leftists can find one poor slob who benefits from their idiotic policies, it’s enough to defeat incontrovertible logic, moral truth and human nature.
Not only that. I have family in BC. The Ministry of Health are vindictive pricks. They even punish ANY Canadian from crossing the border with penalties if you access US healthcare. You can only go to the US if you purchase the vacation insurance (additional) and only in an emergency. The word emergency’ is vague.
I’m an 85 year old woman and stopped having routine mammograms 10 years ago.
I felt that it was a waste of time for me.
A lot of people my age have voluntarily stopped some routine tests.
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There seemed to be way too much “We don’t know what it was” in that story
I have gout.
Yes...one wonders who pays for this ? What’s the tax rate ?
Don’t listen to this asshat.
I’m from Canada too. Moved down to the US in 1995.
I’ve got a far different view.
My sister, who has Cerebral Palsy, can walk, but her left angle has begun turning inwards, making it so she is walking on her ankle.
She has been waiting 18 months to see a specialist. No appointment yet.
After routine surgery, my mother developed complications, and as a tragic complication was left with minimal brain activity.
No death panels - the on duty staff decided her fate.
First, they cut off her feeding tube.
Then, they cut off her water.
Then, they cut off her oxygen.
When I demanded to know why, the on duty nurse stated, “we need the bed”.
Canada’s health care is great if you need to fix a broken arm, or get a cut stitched up.
But for anything serious, you’re screwed.
What good is “free” healthcare if you die?
As someone who's been on both sides of the stethoscope here in the US (as a hospital administrator *and* a patient...see Post #20) I can guarantee you that that's the standard of care here as well.A big part of the problem is that all-too-many of us fail to heed such advice.
He has a pregnant wife, and roommates? Congrats to the father, whomever.
Just watched a vlog about a family in Nova Scotia. Their eighteen month old daughter fell and got a very bad gash in her forehead. They took her to the nearest hospital, and were told to go to Children’s Hospital a half hour away. There they waited five hours to see a doctor.
For us to do the same thing in today's world would be a huge cost. If it will cost California somewhere around $400 Billion in just that state, then how much nationwide. Several Trillion Dollars Maybe? Then how to pay for it, California is talking about adding a 13% wages tax.
Sounds beautiful and Utopian until those pesky details of how to pay for it and implement it.
THis look like a fairly detailed study (clickable):
Todays doctors, if they work for a Hospital system, are expected to see 45 patients a day. When I go, I am lucky if my doctor gives me 15 to 20 minutes. I almost have to do my own diagnosis before I go.
One story does not a system make.
I’m certain many have had a pleasant experience with the VA, however the guy who called the suicide hotline to be put on hold is now dead.
13% sales tax in Ontario on just about everything. Ontario Graduated income tax starting at 5.05% up to 12.16%. Federal income tax starting at 15% up to 29%.
When you live in Mommy’s attic it’s easy to give away all sorts of stuff.
I wish President Trump would send Trudeau a bill for all of the de-facto National Security we’ve been supplying our Northern neighbors.
And the US acts as a release valve to the Canadian system. When they come here for help they cannot get in Canada, they are artificially propping up the system. If the US was not on the border, they would be forced to deal with those horrid situations.
Some of my Canadian relatives have had some bad experiences and do not share the author’s gratitude
“The bad moral value of using force overrides good intentions.” Milton Friedman
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