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Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire
LA Times ^ | October 9, 2017 | Matt Pearce et al

Posted on 10/09/2017 7:13:31 PM PDT by ALASKA

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To: gaijin
дезинформация! Looks to me like this is just our friends on the wrong side of the North Pole having a little internet fun (this time of the year, the days grow short quickly, especially at their latitude, leaving little to do but troll). Как погода в Санкт-Петербург?

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2403.htm

161 posted on 10/09/2017 10:25:09 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: House Atreides; cynwoody

I can’t find a website with www.newyorknewsday.com - just some local town papers. The murder-suicide article comes up on a lot of various goofy websites though. It is fake.

I like the one line-something like “he took the shotgun and shot his daughter and then himself in the back of the head”.

Quite the trick!


162 posted on 10/09/2017 10:29:15 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: clintonh8r

You win the internet tonight


163 posted on 10/09/2017 10:30:53 PM PDT by boxlunch (Pray for Donald Trump and his administration! Disband the DMC! (Democrat Media Complex). ncee)
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To: 21twelve

Here’s the link:

http://thenewyorknewsday.com/2017/10/09/key-witness-in-las-vegas-shooting-kills-self-and-daughter-following-fbi-raid/


164 posted on 10/09/2017 10:43:21 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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To: snarkytart

Lombardo repeated his claim about there being evidence that Campos planned to escape in tonight’s press conference.


165 posted on 10/09/2017 10:47:15 PM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
However, there are blatant discrepancies

That's an understatement. And a problem that certainly won't go away at this point. If there was not enough distrust before, there is now.

166 posted on 10/09/2017 10:56:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
However, there are blatant discrepancies

That's an understatement. And a problem that certainly won't go away at this point. If there was not enough distrust before, there is now.

167 posted on 10/09/2017 10:56:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: exit82
"Paddock tripped in a panic and killed himself."

This makes sense.

Shooter may have made a small hole originally to shoot through. Maybe he misfired and hit the glass which caused the bullets to ricochet and kill him. Would that explain all the strewn bullets around his body?

According to the guest just below the shooter's suite, he said that he heard furniture moving and glass breaking when the SWAT were above. What are the chances that SWAT fully broke the windows and did some staging? No one would notice on the ground since most were in panic mode.

168 posted on 10/09/2017 11:12:05 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Nobody likes having their buttocks spackled with topping compound
(Maybe Harvey Weisenstein.)
I’ve got stink bugs.


169 posted on 10/09/2017 11:16:34 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Guenevere

We are being lied to. At every presser since the shooting, the sheriff and others have told the same story about the security guard being shot just before the death of the perp. NOW, everything changes. Completely. Changes.

And now there’s not going to be another presser until Friday? Time for creative writing?


170 posted on 10/09/2017 11:22:16 PM PDT by ALASKA (Watching a coup..........)
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To: independentmind

Assuming you meant to say Paddock.


171 posted on 10/09/2017 11:28:11 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Bryan24

The cop in that 60Minutes interview said it again, “We had to breach the interior door to the second room...” If that door was locked, how was Paddock moving between and shooting out of both broken windows (as according to their explanation that Paddock acted alone)? Who was shooting from the broken window in the other room?


172 posted on 10/09/2017 11:33:37 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: 21twelve

yeah, but if you look at the whole cab driver video, people were standing around the lobby and by the curb acting completely unconcerned while gunfire was going off over their heads. No one was running around the lobby, trying to evacuate people, nothing.


173 posted on 10/09/2017 11:39:55 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: snarkytart

Regarding the comment about having an exit strategy.

When I first heard it, I couldn’t help thinking maybe he had an accomplice who though the exit strategy was so good that he took it and left the shooter in his place.

I have a sneaky suspicion that movie plots like Ocean’s Eleven, the Professional, Catch Me If You Can, etc,. must linger for years in the back minds of many a Vegas gambler and professional.

It seems like a common element in those movies is the ability to pose a very public distraction, while walking away free from the crime as though they are law enforcement or a first responder.

While reality is quite different than the movies, I suspect those who are most likely to be mass murderers, were suckered into thinking they were removing evil or a cog in a machine.

Any other major casino robberies ongoing at the time of the shooting?


174 posted on 10/10/2017 12:28:44 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: House Atreides; gaijin

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2403.htm

Regarding the engineer who mysteriously suicides himself and handicapped daughter a day after FBI searches his home.


175 posted on 10/10/2017 12:42:54 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: TexasGator

No radio, perhaps. But no cellphone? And he could phone from a guest room, right?


176 posted on 10/10/2017 12:46:41 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever)
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To: Jamestown1630

Listen to the police radio tapes on youtube.

Net control had difficulty keeping first responders from a myriad of locations reporting injuries to other officers.

Then they shut down the major boulevard and likely avenue of approach believing they would likely be targeted along that approach by preplanned fires.

If anything, the event will prompt more coordination between first responders and casinos and security firms,,.....or maybe the public simply doesn’t know what’s been going on behind the scenes.

I don’t know.
I tend towards the WYSIWYG explanation, but remember, this is Las Vegas we’re discussing.


177 posted on 10/10/2017 12:50:12 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: blu

Where is the video of Paddock doing this? Don’t tell me they didn’t catch this on camera...


178 posted on 10/10/2017 3:57:04 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: exit82

I dont think we were ever told police ever fireda weapon at Paddocks room. They breached the door but I never assumed it was bullets.


179 posted on 10/10/2017 3:58:39 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Cvengr; gaijin; House Atreides; TexasGator; cynwoody; UCANSEE2

Well this is weird: Article is dated October 5 and the locale is Rochester, NY

Cops: Father Killed Disabled Daughter 27, Then Took Own Life FAIRPORT, N.Y. (AP) — Authorities say the two bodies found in a suburban Rochester yard were those of a 27-year-old disabled woman who had been shot by her father before he took his own life.

Police in the village of Fairport were called to a home early Wednesday morning for reports of gunfire. ...they found a woman and man dead from gunshot wounds in the backyard. Identified as 60-year-old John Beilman and his daughter Nicole. Beilman’s wife (Nicole’s mother) was inside the home and wasn’t aware of the shooting until police arrived. Nicole Beilman had to use a wheelchair because she suffered from the neurological disorder Rett syndrome.


180 posted on 10/10/2017 4:38:53 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever)
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