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5 days after Vegas slaughter, only ISIS offers a narrative
WND ^ | Leo Hohmann

Posted on 10/07/2017 2:52:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Dr. Mark Christian, a former Muslim imam and expert on Wahabbist and Salafist Islamic teachings, said he believes ISIS is milking the Las Vegas massacre for all it’s worth and will, in time, provide some type of evidence of its involvement, possibly a video.

“How would ISIS have known that U.S. investigators wouldn’t find a different motive that would debunk their claim?” said Christian, founder and director of the Global Faith Institute. *snip

Former secret service agent Dan Bongino said the case is unlike any other mass shooting he’s seen.

“This case is really an enigma,” he told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto. “It doesn’t seem to make any sense. In my experience, you usually have two types of suspects in these cases, those radicalized by an ideology or those with some type of psychological disorder, and with this one neither seems to make sense. There’s none of those pre-attack indicators. I don’t think the FBI or local police have that much information on this case, either, because they’re putting up billboards and asking for information. This is a very disturbing case.”

Another angle that makes no sense to Bongino is the Tannerite found in Paddock’s car.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jihadinamerica; lasvegas; paddock; stephenpaddock
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To: RoosterRedux

ISIS have apparently been promoting this type of attack on concerts in the US for a while. Some US Islamists have been rounded up while working on same though they were a group of more than one.

ISIS may be claiming credit to help m8tivate their minions to work harder to accomplish similar.


81 posted on 10/07/2017 5:59:43 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: RC one

According to one guy on cable trying to correct the record: the floor was guarded by several local cops who had gone to the floor below but were alerted by the security guy who was shot. The shooting had ended 12 minutes prior to the cops and security guard’s arrival - they were alerted by the car valets on whom the glass from the windows fell as to the possible floor and location of the shooter. The cops held their positions blocking access and egress to the 32nd floor until the swat team arrived much later.

Still, 12 minutes is a lot of time to make an exit.


82 posted on 10/07/2017 6:01:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: RoosterRedux

If a neo-Nazi militia group thrice claimed Paddock and boasted responsibility, how quickly would MSM run with that angle?


83 posted on 10/07/2017 6:06:08 AM PDT by socal_parrot (Do you like Pina Coladas?)
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To: mosesdapoet

There is a Levin app that loops his three hour radio show after transmitting it in real time.


84 posted on 10/07/2017 6:06:53 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Vision

He and Marilou weren’t married. They were both divorced. If people move around a lot, they are losers? He had a solid work history, no criminal record. Not sure what makes you call him a loser. His dad - now he sounds like a loser.


85 posted on 10/07/2017 6:15:09 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: RoosterRedux

,,,,, would isis be willing to come in and do an interview with the FBI ,, I don’t think they want to accept their version .


86 posted on 10/07/2017 6:16:48 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: There is nothing democratic about the democrat party :-()
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To: RoosterRedux

It’s ISIS. . .Paddock was a money-launderer and gun dealer. ISIS set him up. The ruse was a gun deal. That’s why Paddock had so many weapons and the tannerite in his car. . .Paddock believed he was going to sell it. The ISIS rep tells Paddock to get that specific room on the 32 floor. . .the meeting starts as per normal, the ISIS rep has to charge his phone (forgets his charger). At the appointed time.. .the ISIS rep kills Paddock, breaks out the windows and rains down fire. When the security guard shows up. . he blasts his way out and escapes to a waiting car. The police investigaters know there was an accomplice and are not telling.


87 posted on 10/07/2017 6:22:16 AM PDT by McBuff (ed)
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To: RoosterRedux

a motive is not always needed. has a brain tumor been disproven yet?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting

here is another interesting article—

Family friend of Las Vegas shooter says the mass murderer’s girlfriend felt ‘nervous and jittery’ around him and he would sleep with prostitutes offered by casinos

Ben Hill
Published: 06:35 EDT, 6 October 2017 | Updated: 09:20 EDT, 6 October 2017
Daily Mail (UK/Australia)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4955002/Friend-Las-Vegas-shooter-says-used-free-prostitutes.html


88 posted on 10/07/2017 6:28:15 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: RC one

Winner!!!


90 posted on 10/07/2017 6:28:36 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: snarkytart

They haven’t RELEASED any evidence...


91 posted on 10/07/2017 6:30:13 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: ilovesarah2012
His ego appears to have isolated him from personal relationships unless they were paid or family. He had a hidden life from his family. His paid relationships were distant to nasty. Was always with a drink but not social. What did he have going for him? Some money and a reckless gambling lifestyle?
92 posted on 10/07/2017 6:40:51 AM PDT by Vision (If you can't respect the Anthem, then it's time for you to find another home.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t think they were a couple .
I suspect partners in crime and she found hookers for him , fellow younger
Filipinos .
They fled that home in Vegas in August like they were on the run .
She packed up and took off when he was away so how did he send her off overseas like she said now ?
But they have every done this a few times across the country .
Very ill devious people .


93 posted on 10/07/2017 6:42:04 AM PDT by ncalburt (ll)
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To: Vision

This makes as much sense to me as anything else. WARNING - graphic pic allegedly of his body.
Photo of a Dead Stephen Paddock? – LVMPD Leaked Intel- Stephen Pollack Was an FBI Agent Supplying Arms to ISIS Inside the USA

http://m.beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2017/10/photo-of-a-dead-stephen-paddock-3559159.html


94 posted on 10/07/2017 6:44:44 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: RoosterRedux

Mark Styen quotes an analyst.....

“There is only one plausible motive for what this man did. And here it is:

This man wished to telegraph to America in graphic form the hard irrefutable evidence that guns and gun ownership and the ease of gun purchase in America are an evil and must be controlled. On that hypothesis everything now makes sense. And it must be said his concept has a certain demented genius.

Because even if the public learns and believes that his motive was all about ‘guns’ the horror of the act itself - an act to protest such acts -
is in some ways even worse for being plain evidence that there is no limit to the insanity to which guns can be put.

Here then is our argument:

1. His long planned and carefully executed purchase of a virtual armoury of unprecedented scope and scale guaranteed that very armoury would inevitably become the central focus of the media.

2. His assiduous removal of evidence of any tangible motive also removed the possibility that the news cycle might move on from guns - simply the means of the killing - to considering the more interesting issues of motive and message - be it political or economic or environmental or anything else.

3. This man was a highly methodical and systematic thinker. Nothing in the scenario that unfolded was left to chance - even down to positioning cameras to surveil the corridor. It is therefore inconceivable that this was all done in this precise manner for no reason. That there is no message.

But of course there is indeed a message. It only happens to be implicit instead of explicit. That message is ‘guns’. And that message is being trawled over every minute of every day on every network in America. Given the nature of the man and the facts this is not a chance outcome. On the contrary given the known facts it is indeed the only possible outcome. An outcome so obvious that anyone given the full story beforehand would have predicted as inevitable.

4. The people he chose to kill supports the hypothesis on ‘guns’. Country and Western fans are virtually guaranteed to own or at least to defend the ownership of guns. By a certain logic this provides the gunman with two sound moral positions (because it is not beyond possibility he has a conscience):

First - While killing a very large number of innocent people is an horrendous crime it is nonetheless entirely justifiable - in moral terms - if it causes a restriction on guns. Because such a restriction would - it is widely held - save innumerable lives in the long run. There is no evidence for this but it is still a widely and passionately held belief.

Second - Since the people he is shooting are actively or passively defenders of guns and an obstacle to gun control they are by definition responsible in part for all the people who have been and continue to be killed by guns.”


95 posted on 10/07/2017 6:45:33 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Vision

http://hollaforums.com/thread/10708328/politics/paddock-connected-to-spooks.html


96 posted on 10/07/2017 6:51:57 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: no-to-illegals

He may have been a hit man. The story about real estate and gambling winnings is a laughable joke. Pure money laundering. Look at his tax returns and you’ll see exactly when he joined an organized crime unit. He was probably paid to make a hit and ordered to make a room full of weapons. His sleeping problems may have been a guilty conscience


97 posted on 10/07/2017 7:43:08 AM PDT by Professional
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To: socal_parrot

Lol. Excellent point


98 posted on 10/07/2017 7:48:09 AM PDT by Professional
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To: Trump20162020

“Does anyone here actually believe ISIS’s bluster?”

Awfully coincidental the ISIS connected arrests just made. Their targets? Concerts.


99 posted on 10/07/2017 7:51:13 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Texas Fossil
Samir al-Hajib 30 years old living in Las Vegas. He could be the second shooter. ISIS unintentionally blew his cover?
I hope the police picked him up for questioning. That should be enough for a warrant to check his house.
100 posted on 10/07/2017 8:44:07 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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