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5 days after Vegas slaughter, only ISIS offers a narrative
WND ^ | Leo Hohmann

Posted on 10/07/2017 2:52:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Dr. Mark Christian, a former Muslim imam and expert on Wahabbist and Salafist Islamic teachings, said he believes ISIS is milking the Las Vegas massacre for all it’s worth and will, in time, provide some type of evidence of its involvement, possibly a video.

“How would ISIS have known that U.S. investigators wouldn’t find a different motive that would debunk their claim?” said Christian, founder and director of the Global Faith Institute. *snip

Former secret service agent Dan Bongino said the case is unlike any other mass shooting he’s seen.

“This case is really an enigma,” he told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto. “It doesn’t seem to make any sense. In my experience, you usually have two types of suspects in these cases, those radicalized by an ideology or those with some type of psychological disorder, and with this one neither seems to make sense. There’s none of those pre-attack indicators. I don’t think the FBI or local police have that much information on this case, either, because they’re putting up billboards and asking for information. This is a very disturbing case.”

Another angle that makes no sense to Bongino is the Tannerite found in Paddock’s car.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jihadinamerica; lasvegas; paddock; stephenpaddock
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1 posted on 10/07/2017 2:52:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Not leaning one way or another personally, but thought the point about ISIS possibly knowing there would be no other motive to be found was interesting.

ISIS' credibility would have suffered an blow if the claim had been immediately debunked. And I would think their credibility is already at an all time low right now because of their loss of Raqqa.

Credibility is important for ISIS both for recruiting and fund raising.

2 posted on 10/07/2017 2:58:24 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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how soon after the shootings did ISIS take credit for it?


3 posted on 10/07/2017 3:02:45 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: RoosterRedux
5 days after Vegas slaughter, only ISIS offers a narrative

Nature abhors a vacuum.

Sounds like he was radicalized. ISIS or Anifa. Take your pick.

4 posted on 10/07/2017 3:06:23 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: snarkytart

ISIS made its claim last Monday, right after the shooting occurred the preceding night.


5 posted on 10/07/2017 3:07:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Maybe they “lucked out” in that no other motive was found.

Usually though, there would be some type of communication tying him to someone associated with ISIS. I half believe it is them then the other half I think it’s ISIS PSYOP.


6 posted on 10/07/2017 3:07:56 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: RoosterRedux

okay thank you.


7 posted on 10/07/2017 3:08:29 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

The headline about ISIS taking credit was in the Israeli national news and Arutz Sheva almost instantaneously. I believe 3AM Pacific time per the rolling headline I saw.


8 posted on 10/07/2017 3:08:43 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: RoosterRedux
“How would ISIS have known that U.S. investigators wouldn’t find a different motive that would debunk their claim?”

I don't think much of this. ISIS took credit. Perhaps they had a real connection. Perhaps it's propaganda for recruiting, and they know that their target audience won't be swayed by contrary evidence when that comes out. We need more information to know what happened, but ISIS worrying about being proven to have lied is not a likely concern if they were not connected.

9 posted on 10/07/2017 3:08:46 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: RoosterRedux

Does anyone here actually believe ISIS’s bluster? They had nothing to do with it, they’re just trying to appear more relevant than they actually are.


10 posted on 10/07/2017 3:08:51 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: RoosterRedux

Paddock is clearly different and his actions raise so many questions. He clearly is very intelligent and not insane in the simplistic narrative of public shooters. He became wealthy not only through real estate, which is difficult, but supposedly by professional gambling, which is nearly impossible.


11 posted on 10/07/2017 3:10:27 AM PDT by PGR88
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I’ve read interviews with pyromaniacs. They have this burning fire inside and they want to leave it someplace. The Vegas shooter would lie in bed and moan. That’s a lot of pain. I’m guessing he wanted to create as much pain in others as possible and thus get relief. He had a grandiose personality; flying planes, gambling huge sums, and living large. Someone with a personality like that couldn’t just walk into a mall and start shooting. That would be so pedestrian. He’d want a huge venue with the opportunity to create pain in thousands of people.

We can only thank God that he wasn’t a billionaire, with the ability to fund groups demanding alphabet soup (LGBTQ, whatever) superiority and abortion on demand up to ten years post-delivery. (Incidentally, if abortions were available any time up to delivery what would be the problem with abortion after delivery? And, then, as the Overton window moves, anytime up to any other arbitrary age?)

The Overton Window.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window


12 posted on 10/07/2017 3:12:01 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Investigators are also examining his finances. IRS records show Paddock was a successful gambler, earning at least $5 million in 2015 from gambling and real estate deals.

Or a successful money launderer.

13 posted on 10/07/2017 3:12:23 AM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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Two planes ... multimillionaire.... high roller ... drugs??? drug cartels???


14 posted on 10/07/2017 3:16:00 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/lamestream)
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To: RoosterRedux
There's this.

He was a disturbed, loner, loser living in his head. A CPA who viewed himself as a god as his life was without God. He created a little money but was a failure at everything else in life; bought a wife, felt powerless, and went insane resenting reality as HE couldn't have been the problem to everything he saw. So he killed people he couldn't measure up to to feel powerful and blowing up the fuel tanks would have been even better for his ultimate moment, the cumulation of everything.

15 posted on 10/07/2017 3:16:05 AM PDT by Vision (If you can't respect the Anthem, then it's time for you to find another home.)
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To: Caipirabob

I think ISIS is working with ANTIFA.


16 posted on 10/07/2017 3:16:33 AM PDT by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: PGR88
Paddock reportedly earned $5 mil in gambling in 2015.

There is no way a casino is going to let a gambler walk away with that amount of money.

His gambling was clearly a smoke screen for his money laundering of casino-related drug trade cash.

17 posted on 10/07/2017 3:18:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Caipirabob

I agree it sure smells like he was radicalized. The only thing strange is they can’t find any evidence he had any connection to ISIS or even one person associated with them.
Not one phone call? Nada so far.


18 posted on 10/07/2017 3:18:13 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: no-to-illegals

That’s what I’m thinking. he was an IRS accountant and a “successful online gambler” having earned 5 million dollars in 2015 through online gambling. Online gambling figures heavily into money laundering schemes. Who would understand this better than an IRS accountant. This guy was dirty as ____.


19 posted on 10/07/2017 3:19:28 AM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: RoosterRedux

Occam’s toiletry kit.


20 posted on 10/07/2017 3:19:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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