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To: Mariner
This is a no-brainer “gimme”.

No loss to us who value the 2nd. And it placates the stupid.

You are wrong. There is no 'placating' people who won't be satisfied until all guns are banned.

Give not an inch of ground.
Make fun of them.
Propose banning rubber bands instead, since you can use them to 'roll your own.

I personally, have no use for these contraptions because I like having more control over the ultimate destination of my rounds, but I do not care. Bans on hardware like this is stupid and completely useless.

43 posted on 10/05/2017 12:10:10 PM PDT by zeugma (I live in the present due to the constraints of the Space-Time Continuum. —Hank Green)
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To: zeugma

“Bans on hardware like this is stupid and completely useless.”

That’s my point.

Who could possibly care?


51 posted on 10/05/2017 12:20:51 PM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
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To: zeugma; Mariner

“I personally, have no use for these contraptions because I like having more control over the ultimate destination of my rounds, but I do not care. Bans on hardware like this is stupid and completely useless.”


I also have no particular use for these things...and would buy the rubber bands for cash if I did. :>)

However, I take some issue with your statement that “bans on hardware like this is stupid and completely useless.” Yeah, it is stupid and useless - from OUR point of view. But from the POV of the Schumers and Feinsteins, you accomplish several important things:

1) You establish that inanimate objects DO cause crime. This gives you a BIG wedge to do the same thing later with more significant items;

2) You reinforce with your base and your supporters in Congress that making enough noise gets you somewhere - “somewhere” being defined as a political victory. They don’t give a damn about actual effectiveness of the legislation - in fact, I’m convinced that they are happier when a new law doesn’t work, because then they can come back for more saying “we’re not trying hard enough, we can’t keep compromising with the NRA.”

3) You tick off many NRA members, causing it to lose numbers and donations.

Understand that this is a long-term battle for the soul of our society. The other side wants us to be defenseless. They understand that it is going to take a LONG time to do that, but they never give up, they never pass up on even the smallest legislative, judicial or regulatory victory, and use ALL of them to win in the court of Public Opinion. We have backed up far enough, mostly without getting a single thing in return. It is time to stop giving, and start TAKING BACK.

Another thing to look at is how the government treats us now, with over 400 million guns in civilian hands. Now consider what they would do if there were effectively none...and EVERY victory that the other side has makes that very scary scenario more possible.

“Never give in. Never, never, never give in.” - Winston Churchill


93 posted on 10/05/2017 2:02:02 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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