Paul Joseph WatsonVerified account @PrisonPlanet-
Posted on 10/03/2017 3:31:00 AM PDT by servo1969
As virtually everyone has noted from the abundant video footage of the incident, it certainly sounds as if the shooter used either fully-automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons modified (through, for example, a bump fire stock) to closely simulate automatic fire. Moreover, the police are reporting that he had “more than 10 rifles.” He apparently rented his corner room for days and may have even set up cameras to detect when police were approaching. That’s all strange enough, but it’s even more unusual when you consider that his own family apparently didn’t know that he maintained a stockpile of guns.
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Put all this together, and the shooting is flat-out bizarre. It’s significantly different from virtually any other mass shooting in U.S. history. If the weapons were fully automatic, then he likely would have spent immense sums of money to obtain them legally, jumping through extensive legal hoops.
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So, a person who’s “not a gun guy” has either expended untold thousands of dollars to legally purchase fully-automatic weapons, somehow found them on the black market, or purchased and substantially modified multiple semi-automatic weapons — and did so with enough competence to create a sustained rate of fire. This same person also spent substantial sums purchasing just the right hotel room to maximize casualties.
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Given the firepower and the packed mass of people, it’s easy to see how the casualty count was so high, even firing from an extreme range (by the standards of mass shootings.) This was the University of Texas tower attack on steroids, conducted out of nowhere, with meticulous planning and at great expense, from a person who doesn’t seem to fit any normal profile of a mass shooter. There is much we have yet to learn, but for now, this is one of the most chilling and mysterious events I’ve ever seen.
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But, as I stated on another thread, going back to basics: Do we have video of the perp actually firing the shots with the weapon the claim he was using?
I doubt there’s any amount of money you could pay a crisis actor to sing the anthem.
You mean why did he pick a Country Western concert as his target?
No!
AR15s either illegally converted (auto sear_M16 disconnect,M16 bolt), or legally bump fire with 60/90 round surefire mags, 100 round beta c mags, 90 round rotary SK army junk drums, and 75 round AK/RPK drums I said early on..
This morning, CNN said you have to have a permit to buy guns off the black market. You're telling me that's not true?
His brother is hiding his political connections. Why would the only time he talked to him was after the hurricane asking bout his mom? Why wouldn’t he call unless they weren’t speaking and couldn’t stand him?
Probably got tired of his Trump rants or Islam???
No, illegal full auto and legal, simulated bump fire like just like I said early on..
Notice the surefire 90 in the AR platform semi auto rifle....has a slidefire stock on it. There is your 90 rounds. I could tell it was a slide fire the first time I heard it, and then I thought the cyclic rate was waning up and down, and inconsistent.
True belt fed GMPGs don't wane and change cyclic rate unless the ammo sucks. Ive only heard that in my RPK with wolf/tula ammo that was stored in a humid FL garage.
Thanks for the info. Is there a grassy knoll in the area?
Not impossible since they were packed in like sardines.
Now, one dumpy 64 year old shooter running back and forth between vantage points 10 windows apart...
It’s an Oxymoron.
Because he's a 64 year old guy who doesn't have FB or a half dozen grandkids to in pictures with and plaster the internet with.
He was using a compensator so the sound echoed back into the room and back out again.
A bump fire stock and some big magazines... just like you said.
Fine with me.
I think the difficulty of the attack is vastly overstated.
Anyone who can watch YouTube and use basic tools (a screwdriver or similar) can install a bump fire stock or file down the appropriate part to turn an AR-10 or AR-15 into full-auto.
If he wanted to wallow in his insane fantasy for a year before doing it, that was plenty of time to buy moderate amounts of whatever he wanted once a month. Again, setting up small webcams for the hallway is trivial. YouTube and a little money would be enough. He didn’t even need much money if he bought one for practice and then bought the rest in the last month so he wouldn’t have to pay the credit card bill. His female “partner” would have known he had guns, but she might not have considered it strange, particularly if they were in a gun safe so she didn’t know how their number might have changed.
He would not have needed “immense sums of money” to modify weapons to a rate of fire comparable to full-automatic legally, and no money at all to do it illegally (again, see YouTube for instructions). He also would not have needed any special skills for the modification. Anyone can use a file or a screwdriver. And the cost of the room? Whether the casino comped him for his big bets or he put it on a credit card he had no intention of paying, the cost of the room was irrelevant to him. He just had to choose the right room, and that would have been easy with the Internet.
Extreme range? For an AR-10 .308 or an AR-15 .223, the range was not unreasonable. Shooting at a concert at that range is like hitting the broad side of a barn door at 25 feet. He couldn’t choose individual targets, but he could not do that with full-auto in any case. He had 20,000 targets in a tight group, so he was guaranteed a lot of hits. I don’t see meticulous planning or great expense relative to his gambling or his airplanes, just a crazy person who probably spent all year building a fantasy, before acting on it.
This is chilling, but I don’t see it as mysterious. I also (probably) don’t see a conspiracy here. I have no reason to doubt that we have the right shooter. No, he’s not a patsy, where the real shooter slipped out after firing through the door at the police and security guard in the hall. No, the real shooter was not on another floor. No, there is no real evidence of a second shooter. Perhaps he was nudged into doing this by the former “partner”, by ISIS, by Antifa, or by some other group of anti-American terrorists, but he could just have easily have gotten to that level of insanity on his own.
The press might hide little details like the fact that he is almost certainly a registered democrat. The press might hide little details like the heroics of normal (conservative) Americans. But beyond that, I don’t see much room for deception here, just for their classic anti-gun spin.
Better run out and get yours now. You just know Congress critters will ban them. I had an akins unit until ATF banned it AFTER approving it.....I didn’t want to piss away funds on slidefire, but am reconsidering it since it is a pretty solid piece of kit......for a rainy day....on a boat.....in the middle of a river.....accident prone.
Exactly, and the target area had 22,000 targets. This is as straightforward as it could be. 1 shooter, no exotic weapons... just a nut and lots of hemmed in targets.
Thank you for this information.
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