could you say more about your opinion that people don’t have the right to secede? I read somewhere in the declaration of independence people had a broad rights to be independent or did I misread something? What right would you have to keep them associated with you? the right of war? Is that how you “enforce” freedom?
The DoI is completely meaningless if the revolution failed.
The “right” subject to conditions, like winning.
Outside of a philosophical argument, unless there is a written process of secession in a federation, then it is an extra-legal action that can be seen by the existing government, as an act of rebellion (or war) because, as I said, the government is charged to keep the nation’s territorial integrity. Not to allow any dissatisfied group to break off, rightly or wrongly, and create a nation out of whatever. You will end up with cities, neighborhoods, blocks, homes, bedrooms, and basements as nations.
Anyone that wants secession had better be ready to win the challenge.