I’m a T-Shirt Maker With Gay Customers and Gay Employees. I Still Was Sued.

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1 posted on 09/21/2017 4:38:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Business that was sued

2 posted on 09/21/2017 4:41:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The people who filed the lawsuit likely shopped until they found a Christian and went after him.

3 posted on 09/21/2017 4:42:56 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Women who are 25 pounds overweight tend to live longer than the men who mention it.)

Mr. Adamson’s problem is that he believes there’s any semblance of an attempt at being fair with this forced speech against conscience. Name anyone else who is being forced to do so, other than fundamentalist Christians. Are atheists being forced to print Christian messages? No. Are Muslims being forced to print gay messages? No. Who else is being forced? Nobody. And therein lies your answer.

4 posted on 09/21/2017 4:44:20 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry

He naively thinks this was about T-shirts. T-shirts (and cakes) are just the tool. The Goal is forced acceptance of an abhorrent lifestyle.

5 posted on 09/21/2017 4:44:48 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The so-called birthright citizenship clause:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

There are two tests here.

Lets look at test one.

Here's how Leftists read it.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Does this grant citizenship to all persons born in the United States?

On the face of it no. It doesn't even come close to saying that.

The inclusion of an additional stipulation in addition to simply being born on our soil, renders this a false premise. All persons are not granted citizenship for having been born here, without being judged to be under the jurisdiction thereof.

For this reason, it is a false premise to state every person born in the United States is a citizen.

Now lets look at test two.

...and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...

Leftists love to claim that illegal aliens must abide by the laws of the United States (all except immigrating legally, I presume). This they use as primafacia evidence that illegals aliens "...are subject to the jurisdiction thereof,...".

Is that true? NO, and it's a very easy thing to test.

The very inclusion of this verbage in the amendment deligitimizes this claim.

If being on U.S. soil made illegal aliens "...subject of the jurisdiction thereof..." all by itself, this further stipulation would not have been provided.

If all illegal aliens were subject to the jurisdication thereof, the Citizenship claus would read, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States ~~and subject to the jurisdiction thereof~~, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Jurisdiction language would not be necessary, and it would not have been included.

The jurisdiction language had to be addressing something different than merely being present in the United States, when being born.

Conclusion:

The 14th Amendment does not grant citizenship to illegal aliens born on U.S. soil.

6 posted on 09/21/2017 4:44:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (DACA: Their dream, our nightmare... will the rule of law prevail or not?)

Naaahhhh...ya’ think?? Tell me it ain’t so, Joe!

7 posted on 09/21/2017 4:46:04 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)

Freedom of the press means I have the right to print (you know, on a press) what *I* want; not what someone else wants.

A tee-shirt printing operation is a printing press by definition. This guy should be able to print what *he* wants, for whatever reason.

8 posted on 09/21/2017 4:48:24 PM PDT by Flick Lives

We should do the same...find the gay shirt maker. Ask them to print something anti-gay. When they decline wammo...they are discriminating against your religious beliefs. It will help if you say you’re muslim because then that will fracture the liberal crusaders.

9 posted on 09/21/2017 4:59:18 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)

Good point. If he eventually loses. Take out anti-gay ads in the local paper...when they refuse to run it then sue them.

10 posted on 09/21/2017 5:00:13 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)

Well, I agree with you D.O., but did you post this to the right thread?

11 posted on 09/21/2017 5:03:01 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)

To: Repeal The 17th

I had two workups in my editing program.

Before posting these, I went back and copied a post that was in HTML. It was the wrong one.

I caught it, but not until I’d posted it about ten times.

I contacted the Moderator and asked to have them all deleted.

Sorry. Folks reading this, I apologize.

12 posted on 09/21/2017 5:04:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (DACA: Their dream, our nightmare... will the rule of law prevail or not?)

To: DiogenesLamp

The Goal is forced acceptance of an abhorrent lifestyle.

It's more than that. It's all about forcing the denial of Christ. The lesbians are merely the useful idiot tools of the old adversary.

13 posted on 09/21/2017 5:04:52 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)

To: Repeal The 17th

Anyone think he was deliberately targeted because he advertised he was Christian?

14 posted on 09/21/2017 5:04:57 PM PDT by CondorFlight

What the heck
did he get sued for?

15 posted on 09/21/2017 5:09:36 PM PDT by Bethaneidh

Marriage - politicized
Dating - politicized
School - politicized
Military - politicized
Fraternities - politicized
Sports - politicized
T-shirt making - politicized

WHAT DID I MISS..?

16 posted on 09/21/2017 5:10:57 PM PDT by gaijin

It's all about forcing the denial of Christ.

It's all about the tyranny of the few over the many. And it's about who gets to define "normal."

17 posted on 09/21/2017 5:17:14 PM PDT by IronJack (sh)

Church politicized. Our local Presbyterian church has done same sex officiating on their turf. Sad for the fathers and builders of that church.

18 posted on 09/21/2017 5:25:59 PM PDT by KDF48 (Redeemed by Christ.)

cake baking
pizza making
flower arranging

19 posted on 09/21/2017 5:27:01 PM PDT by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)

photography
ride-sharing
cafe cups (starbucks, a few times)

20 posted on 09/21/2017 5:28:12 PM PDT by gaijin

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