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1 posted on 09/21/2017 12:08:48 PM PDT by Sopater
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Here’s the ‘elephant in the room’ question that nobody ever asks. Should people who work hard for a living and can afford better health insurance be served better and faster than parasites who live off of taxpayers?


2 posted on 09/21/2017 12:12:50 PM PDT by LydiaLong
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When you go to the Drs office you’re told SIT! STAY! The DR will come.


3 posted on 09/21/2017 12:14:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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She goes on to claim that Canadians always receive urgently-needed care and never see a bill.

And further down the article:

Meanwhile, a typical Canadian family of four will pay $12,057 for health care this year, an increase of approximately 70 percent over the last 20 years.

Apparently, your Canadian tax return isn't considered a "bill."

5 posted on 09/21/2017 12:23:48 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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More than 52,000 Canadians travelled abroad for health care last year, study finds
March 17, 2015

In 2014, 52,513 Canadians travelled beyond our borders to seek medical treatment, compared with 41,838 in 2013. The numbers suggest that the Canadian health care system could not comply with the needs and demands of a substantial number of Canadian patients, according to the study.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/number-of-canadian-patients-travelling-abroad-for-treatment-increased-by-25-study-finds

6 posted on 09/21/2017 12:24:27 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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Sooner or later, the health care system will be used to reward or punish “proper” views and activities. Party card comrade?


7 posted on 09/21/2017 12:24:34 PM PDT by Truth29
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Wealthy Canadians, Brits and others flee here for timely medical care. That should tell us SOMETHING!


8 posted on 09/21/2017 12:26:17 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Why isn’t any government anywhere trying free choice, free association of doctors and patients and the free market?

I swear if one tiny country tried it, they would create an avalanche which would destroy a main socialist article of faith.


11 posted on 09/21/2017 12:44:12 PM PDT by PGR88
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Any Canadian FReeper, please give me a basis for comparison. In March I had a regularly scheduled follow-up with my cardiologist, who suggested a stress test since it had been several years since my last one. We scheduled it for mid May with a follow-up in June. At the follow up he said there were anomalies on the display and gave me the option of wait and see or a proactive cardiac catheterization. I chose the procedure, and got a scheduling call within two days after the visit, Friday I think. They scheduled it for Monday morning.

Long story short, though I’d had no symptoms, they found my old stent blocked and a new blockage in another artery and did the repairs.

My question is, under the Canadian system, would I have even been looked at yet, let alone fixed up and back at rec b’ball?


12 posted on 09/21/2017 12:50:14 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Sopater; Former Proud Canadian; JudyinCanada
A couple of years ago I,a retired guy with a sense of curiosity and far too much free time,decided to research the Canadian health care system.

Most of that research involved me spending time on British Columbia's *official* health care website.Among the things I found were that in BC if you get a hip replacement within 6 months of it being established that you need one (that is after an orthopedic surgeon gives a diagnosis) you've been well served by the province's health service.

My personal experience (having had both hips replaced) is that both times I needed one I,an ordinary middle class American,was in the recovery room of a world famous hospital within 10 business days of having called the surgeon's office for an initial evaluation.

I also learned that in BC there's at least one type of heart surgery (they didn't specify which type) that you can expect to wait up to a year to have done.I worked in health care for almost 25 years and *nobody* ever had to wait for more than a day or two for *any* kind of heart surgery at our hospital,a world famous Boston hospital.

And lastly...a few years ago a Premier of one of Canada's provinces (can't recall which one) needed heart surgery.Needless to say he could have,as a well known figure in the country,gone to any hospital he wanted to in Montreal,Toronto,Vancouver or elsewhere.But he had it done in the United States.That speaks volumes to me!

Canada's a great country...but I'm glad I don't have to endure their health system,

14 posted on 09/21/2017 12:59:30 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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"I don't recommend it," Canadian health care broker Rick Baker says of Canada's "single payer" healthcare system, which is held up by liberals as a healthcare system for Americans to emulate.

The liberals already have a system that emulates the Canadian health care system, especially while the Democrats were in control. It is call the Veterans Administration.

Many of our esteemed veterans died while waiting for the VA to schedule an appointment. Billions of dollars were wasted with incompetent management of this single payer system.

The Trump Administration is creating a VA that will actually properly and promptly service our veterans.

22 posted on 09/21/2017 2:01:57 PM PDT by olezip
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25 posted on 09/21/2017 3:15:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (DACA: Their dream, our nightmare... will the rule of law prevail or not?)
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Which is why, generally, young people have less problem with the system. I live in British Columbia. Last year to budget for healthcare (50% of the budget) only was increased 3%. This while the province grows and the share of elderly grows. So there is only one option - rationing care.

Canada came into this experiment in the 1950s at the golden beginning of the demographic pyramid. So it worked awesome when we had 12 workers to 1 retiree. The US wants to start this system at the worst point of entry, where the worker to retiree ratio is at a low extreme. The US better find that money tree to shake.

27 posted on 09/21/2017 3:57:18 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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