Posted on 09/21/2017 10:32:09 AM PDT by jazusamo
Good report, thank you.
Trump should tweet one vote fraud factoid per day - just to send the MSM into hysterics. :)
Your reasoning that there isn't a significant amount of voter fraud is based on the small number of prosecutions. Never mind that you can't have prosecutions if you don't have enforcement, and you can't have enforcement if you don't have voter ID requirements.
FYI, 17 states don't have a voter ID requirement.
Your comment is naive. Apparently, given the time you spent thinking about it, I find that astonishing.
When you have a sitting president of the United States telling illegal aliens that voting make them citizens, why would they worry?
Interesting.
What do they do if two voters claim to be the same person?
Count both votes?
Re: “Your comment is naive. Apparently, given the time you spent thinking about it, I find that astonishing.”
I've been making the same argument at Free Republic since the Bush-Gore Florida fiasco in 2000.
So, if I understand your analysis, dozens of Republicans run for political office each election knowing in advance that they will lose because of voter fraud, none of them even mention voter fraud during the election, and after they lose the election, none of them attempt to reform the election process, or punish the offenders?
Re: “When you have a sitting president of the United States telling illegal aliens that voting make them citizens, why would they worry?”
Perhaps because the voter card they have to sign to vote says it’s a felony if they are not a citizen?
Registering to vote and falsely claiming to be a citizen is a felony. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence to support the assertion that there is virtually no checking of citizenship status once the registration form is signed.
My state requires that I sign a book every time I vote, and the poll workers verify my signature. Not once have I read anything in that book about a possible felony. It might be there somewhere, but I have never bothered to look.
I doubt anyone else does, whether legally or illegally registered.
My state, Washington, prints the state and federal voting statutes right above my signature, and you sign for every election.
But, you have changed the issue I was responding to.
You said in your earlier post that no voter ID was required.
But, if illegal voters are already registered, they don’t need ID, just a matching signature.
I was responding to the idea that illegal voters pretended to be other registered voters.
Re: “...there is virtually no checking of citizenship status once the registration form is signed.”
That’s a problem that could be easily countered by an energetic state Republican Party.
The fact that no state Republican Party has ever tried to stop voter fraud means we have only ourselves to blame.
Or, it means the voter fraud problem is less serious and less pervasive than many Free Republic comments suggest.
Who says they now? And who will they get to investigate an prosecute even if they suspect? All they can hope for if they complain is ridicule.
now = know
Easily? In Kalifornia? ROFL!
Or having the race card played on them. That terrifies most mainstream Republicans.
Exactly
“none of them even mention voter fraud during the election, and after they lose the election, none of them attempt to reform the election process, or punish the offenders?”
Trump talked about the “rigged” election many times. And he is doing something.
You need to keep in mind that elections are winner-takes-all. In other words, it does not make a difference if a candidate wins by a 2% or 80% margin. So, in close races, a small about of cheating can make a 100% difference in the outcome.
The Democrats are cheaters. They want illegals to vote. They want felons to vote. They want people in the military to NOT vote.
You seem to think that the issue is whether millions of people will knowingly vote illegally. That’s not the main issue.
The main issue is that potentially many offices are being or have been held by a Democrat candidate due to illegal voting. This does not mean that massive numbers of people voted illegally. It means that the Democrats used all means at their disposal to win by cheating. And this often includes manufacturing enough votes to eke out a win.
How? First, they make it impossible to detect when voter fraud is occurring. Second, they use any number of techniques to identify voting identities they can use to manufacture votes.
For example, if they can compile a list of people who have moved out of state and registered to vote in another state, they can intentionally NOT purge them from the voting roles and someone can vote under the names of the absent voters. This can be fairly easily done with early voting by mail. This is just one simple example.
Because there is no paper trail and often no way to even verify the identity of the person voting, there could potentially be millions of illegally cast votes.
In context, a single vote prevented Republicans from filibustering Obamacare. If Al Franken, who was elected fraudulently, had not been there to cast his vote, the legislation would have failed. Because hundreds of felons illegally voted for Franken (or had their identities used to vote for him) we now have Obamacare.
This is just one example of why the issue is very important.
Bttt.
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