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Trump told that Paris Agreement is ‘irreversible and non-negotiable’
EURACTIV ^ | September 17, 2017 | Sam Morgan

Posted on 09/17/2017 10:30:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The terms of the Paris Agreement are set in stone, the EU, China and Canada agreed at a summit in Montreal this weekend, while Washington was forced to deny that the US is planning to stay in the accord.

Ahead of a UN General Assembly meeting in New York this week and the COP23 climate summit in Bonn in November, EU, Chinese and Canadian officials met in Montreal on Friday and Saturday (15-16 September) to present a united front against the United States on climate action.

The US was represented at the meeting by an observer who, according to EU Climate Commissioner Miguel Arias Cañete, said “[the US] will not renegotiate the Paris accord but they will try to review the terms on which they could be engaged under this agreement.”

This was quickly refuted by a White House spokesperson on Saturday, who insisted that President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw the US from the international agreement still stands.

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But there was more confusion on Sunday, when US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told American television that Trump is actually open to staying in the agreement under the right conditions.

“The president said he is open to finding those conditions where we can remain engaged with others on what we all agree is still a challenging issue,” Tillerson told CBS News. He added that the terms should reflect the US economy’s needs in relation to China’s in particular.

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EU climate boss Cañete also told reporters that there would be a meeting with senior US officials on the sidelines of the UN Assembly “to assess what is the real US position”, adding that “it’s a message which is quite different to the one we heard from President Trump in the past.”

Despite Trump’s 1 June speech signalling his intention to leave the accord, 4 November 2020 is the earliest date the US can actually exit under the terms of the deal. Other countries are concerned that the US will, as a result, look to influence and water down the agreement from within.

At the first Ministerial Meeting on Climate Change (MMCA), Canadian Minister of Climate Change and Environment Catherine McKenna said that co-hosts Canada, China and the EU, as well as other countries in attendance, agreed the “agreement is irreversible and non-negotiable. We are also in full agreement on the full implementation [of the deal].”

Cañete, echoing European Commission boss Jean-Claude Juncker’s State of the Union address, added that “with the collapse of ambition in the United States, Europe will ensure we make our planet great again. Our ambitious climate policy agenda has the most important backing of all.”

The meeting took place 30 years to the day since the signing of the Montreal Protocol on protecting the ozone layer, an agreement which has been hailed as the most successful environmental accord in history.

Xie Zhenhua, China’s Special Representative on Climate Change, called the protocol “very effective and efficient” and called on all parties to the Paris deal to decide “how we should combine climate actions with economic growth, the protection of people and job creation.”

China turned up at the meeting in the wake of making public its plan to ban the internal combustion engine, which sent shockwaves through the automobile industry.

A former senior executive of US firm Chrysler told The Economist that “if China says no more fossil-fuelled cars, global carmakers must follow”, in order to keep a slice of the largest car market in the world.

The EU is hoping to make its own impact on the same sector with an upcoming proposal on cutting transport emissions. It was the only tangible environmental measure cited by Juncker in Strasbourg last week, among a raft of migration and institutional reform proposals.

Timeline

•December 2015 Paris climate conference
•22 April 2016 Paris Agreement signed
•4 November 2016 Agreement comes into force
•1 June 2017 US President Donald Trump announces intention to withdraw from deal
•6-17 November 2017 COP 23 summit in Bonn


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climatechangefraid; globalwarming; paris; parisaccord; parisaccords; trump; trumpclimatechange; trumpparisaccords
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never ratified by the Senate. The U.S. was never a party to the agreement.


41 posted on 09/18/2017 3:51:08 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Please don’t throw me in that briar patch!”


42 posted on 09/18/2017 3:51:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Still having a hard time understanding why Tillerson is still around.


43 posted on 09/18/2017 4:04:17 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only two things that I know to be irreversible are entropy and some people’s stupidity. How do they plan on enforcing their will? Start a war? Decide they will never do business with the U.S.? Get real.


44 posted on 09/18/2017 4:07:57 AM PDT by Pecos (A Constitutional republic shouldnÂ’t need to hold its collective breath in fear of lawyers.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

So we are obligated to do what these countries have decided?? Really??? They decided it is set in stone??? So we have to comply??? This doesn’t make sense.........

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Their club; their rules. They don’t really want us in because we’re rude and embarrassing Americans, but, our money spends. They may have laughed at zer0 and all the previous enablers behind their backs, but they played ball, so they were tolerated.

They really believe Trump needs to feel accepted by them, so they double down on their rules, convinced he’ll cave. Until then, the viciousness will escalate.

They won’t ever concede a thing. It’s how the elites roll.


45 posted on 09/18/2017 4:13:38 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: KTM rider

It has electrolytes, it’s what plants crave


46 posted on 09/18/2017 4:20:33 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Xie Zhenhua, China’s Special Representative on Climate Change, called the protocol “very effective and efficient”

Which, for the Chinese point of view, it certainly is - effective and efficient at humbling the barbarians, industrializing China, and returning the Middle Kingdom to its rightful place on top of the world.

47 posted on 09/18/2017 4:22:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t tell a strong unafraid man, he “can’t”.


48 posted on 09/18/2017 4:38:26 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So was the ever-closer European Union. Trump is Brexit, with an MAGA hat.


49 posted on 09/18/2017 4:38:55 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Man-made climate change is probably the biggest hoax in history, and its sole purpose is elitist control over the people of the world with the focus on bankrupting the U.S. and Europe (but the U.S. particularly). It is a monumental scam for the transfer of wealth.


50 posted on 09/18/2017 4:47:01 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump needs to listen to me—he needs to put a flame-thrower to a copy of the treaty on the White House lawn in a press conference.

Then he should say: “Any questions?”

After the first stupid question he should say: “What part of the burning Paris Treaty did you not understand?” :-)


51 posted on 09/18/2017 4:47:08 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: House Atreides

“under the right conditions” is neither sabotage nor differentiation.


52 posted on 09/18/2017 4:50:29 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama only signed the "accord" TWO MONTHS before Trump's election! The Senate hasn't ratified it. How on Earth could it be "binding" on Trump?
53 posted on 09/18/2017 4:56:56 AM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any good businessman will tell you that everything is negotiable.


54 posted on 09/18/2017 5:43:15 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They will never reach agreement. It is impossible and Trump knows that. The entire purpose of Climate Change policies are to hurt the American economy. The UN reps have even publicly admitted that. So how can an agreement designed to hurt the American economy, be changed to help the American economy ?


55 posted on 09/18/2017 5:46:18 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

somehow I do not think The Donald will be pushed in to a corner by these one world a holes.


56 posted on 09/18/2017 6:01:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So WTF are these EU Fascists going to do,go to war? They can shove their BS accords and agreements up their Obama.


57 posted on 09/18/2017 6:07:13 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Senate never ratified the treaty. We are not obligated.

Period. Full stop. End of story.


58 posted on 09/18/2017 6:34:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The terms of the Paris Agreement are set in stone, the EU, China and Canada agreed at a summit in Montreal this weekend....”


1) Uh, no they aren’t. EVERY treaty has an escape clause.

2) The US Senate did not ratify any such treaty. Thus, it has no force under US law. So y’all can abide by it if you like, we’ll pass.

3) MAKE US ABIDE BY IT! First, you can’t and, thus, won’t. Second, the amount of pollution from your burning tanks, aircraft, factories, refineries, ships and cities will set back your very own cause by decades.

To the rest of the world on this issue: GFY!


59 posted on 09/18/2017 6:35:19 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Despite Trump’s 1 June speech signalling his intention to leave the accord, 4 November 2020 is the earliest date the US can actually exit...

😂😂😂

Or what? We are placed on double secret probation?

60 posted on 09/18/2017 6:36:43 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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