Posted on 09/17/2017 5:15:40 AM PDT by Kaslin
Yes, it would be wonderful if Jesus returned for His people next week, but its not going to happen. Count on it. The Second Coming will not take place this year on September 23.
How can I be so sure? The Bible tells me so, and not in some ambiguous, mysterious language.
Instead, Jesus told His followers what had to take place before He returned, and those things have not yet happened, nor can they happen in just a few days. Thats why Im quite certain that His return is not scheduled for September 23, 2017.
What, then, do I think about the claims of Christian numerologist David Meade, who argues that verses in Luke 21:25 to 26 are the sign that recent events, such as the recent solar eclipse and Hurricane Harvey, are signs of the apocalypse? And what do I think of the alleged correspondence between Revelation 12 and the alignment of Jupiter, the sun, and the moon?
Actually, I dont think about these things at all, any more than I thought about the claim that Jesus was coming back between September 11-13, 1988, or the claim that Judgment Day was coming on September 6, 1994, or the claim (made by the same author who predicted the 1994 date) that Jesus would return on May 21, 2011.
There was not a shred of scriptural evidence to support these claims, and there was a mountain of evidence against them. Why, then, bother to give them any thought?
But, you ask, didnt Jesus say that no one who knew the day or hour of His return? If so, how can you be so sure Hes not coming on September 23?
First, the fact that He says no one knows the day or hour of His return (Matthew 24:36) means that its utter foolishness to predict a specific day. If Jesus says no one knows the day, we should quit predicting specific days. Simple.
Second, Jesus said we could not know the specific day or hour when He would return. He never said we could not know when He would not return.
Put another way, if I get on a boat to sail across the Atlantic from New York to London, you might not know the exact time of my arrival. But you can certainly know that I will not be arriving in one or two days. It takes longer than that to cross the ocean by boat.
So, Jesus spoke of great world upheaval that would take place (far greater than anything we have yet witnessed) and of great cosmic signs (again, of unprecedented nature), while Paul wrote of major world events that would transpire before the Lords return (see, for example, Luke 21 and 2 Thessalonians 2).
The Old Testament prophets also painted pictures of what we could expect before the end of the age, and it is clear their words have still not come to pass (see, for example, Zechariah 12 and 14).
But this doesnt mean that we should grow complacent and say, The Lord delays His coming (see Luke 12:45). God forbid.
Instead, we should always live with readiness to meet the Lord, and we should labor with all our might to make an impact for Him, since we have only one life to reach our generation. As one of my colleagues once said, I dont know if this is the last generation. But it is our last generation.
As for those who believe that there will be a secret rapture that could happen at any moment, when hundreds of millions of Christians are suddenly and stealthily removed from the earth, that will allegedly happen without any definite signs. In other words, it could happen today as well as any other day, since the timing of it is unpredictable. Why, then, are we bothering to make predictions?
By all means, we should understand the times in which we are living and know what we should do (see 1 Chronicles 12:32). And we must be sober and alert lest we fall asleep in the light.
But let us stop making foolish predictions. Not only do they make us look like fools in the eyes of the world. But they rob us of a multi-generational perspective, since were always thinking, Jesus is coming any moment, rather than thinking and planning in the long term.
Little wonder, then, that weve lost so much moral and cultural ground in recent decades. While our ideological opponents are planning ahead, were planning our escape.
In the last few years, Ive spoken to leaders and believers about the importance of developing a multi-generational mentality, and the impact of those messages has been very deep.
Sadly, this message is foreign to many Christians today, which is why I devoted a whole chapter to the subject in Saving a Sick America: A Prescription for Moral and Cultural Transformation. If America is to be changed for the good, it can only be through multi-generational thinking.
As I look back on my own journey, I came to faith in 1971 at the age of 16, and we were told that Jesus was coming at any moment. The signs of the times were all there! Little did we think that, in 2017, wed still be here and my wife and I would have a 16-year-old granddaughter.
Lets not repeat the same mistake today.
Instead, lets live with readiness, with urgency, with focus, with purpose, and with a long-term, multi-generational plan. And if the Lord chooses to interrupt our plans along the way with His return, that would be a welcome prospect.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus! We long to see Your return. Until then, well stay busy and pass the torch to the generations to come.
No, there is not!
This is not an argument about a word; it is about a process.
The process is described in Yeshua’s revelation to Nicodemus in John ch 3.
Our redemption will not be a catching up, but a changing of our nature.
We will be changed from biologically reproduced creatures to literally individually created “sons of Yehova.”
That new birth will place us in the realm of Yehova with bodies designed to survive there without moving us a single millimeter.
John 3:8
” The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.”
One has to pay attention to all of the words, not just those that fit your man made orthodoxy. We will be "changed" just as Paul said to the Corinthians. .
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Thankfully, we are held by Yehova to the standard of the Tanakh, rather than what makes sense to your biased cognition.
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>>> Thankfully, we are held by Yehova to the standard of the Tanakh, rather than what makes sense to your biased cognition.
Maybe you are held to the standard of the Law...
I am not.
I am held to the shed blood of Jesus which IS my righteousness. His sacrifice atones for my sin. The only other way is absolute perfection under the law.
Good luck with that.
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Yeshua’s shed blood is not your anything but an invitation to Yehova’s righteousness: Torah.
Obedience is your required garment for the wedding feast.
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>>> Yeshuas shed blood is not your anything but an invitation to Yehovas righteousness: Torah. Obedience is your required garment for the wedding feast.
“For all have sinned and fall short of God’s Glory”.
That means that your obedience will not save you.
You (or I) cannot meet His standard of obedience.
I wish you God’s Truth during the tribulation.
Whatever you do, don’t take the mark!
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven..
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
Matthew 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
These are just some of the many holes in your iniquitous theory. The word is chock full of similar admonishments.
You clearly follow the broad path framed in the “ inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.” (Jer 16:19)
As Peter assured us, conveniently misinterpreting the sometimes complicated statements of the apostle Paul has devastating eternal consequences.
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“I see you encountered our Roodite follower”
Always sad to see someone pushing Christ away and instead trying to make himself his own savior.
Only for unbelievers.
The wedding is for the blood washed believers, the Bride of Christ, and Jesus.
Those guests who are working for their wedding garments, like you are, better be perfect. Because that's God's standard.
BTW, the Temple has been torn down for almost 2,000 years not so it's not possible to keep the Law. Just how do you manage your sacrifice for sins without a consecrated priesthood and consecrated Temple to offer them by?
You never have answered that question.
Lots of people think they can be good enough for God to save them.
What a shock they are in for.
“Yeshuas shed blood is not your anything but an invitation to Yehovas righteousness: Torah.”
Trying hard to understand your statement but failing, E-S. Are you saying Yeshua suffered and died so that we may go back under the law? Is that what you mean by your statement?
Best Always,
SC
There is not one word of scripture that indicates so.
Matthew 7:21-23 is clear and specific that those that disregard Torah will be rejected by Yeshua.
Perhaps you have been misled by theologians?
Throughout the NT writings, those that keep the Sabbath and the appointed times are profusely praised by Paul, and those that reject are denounced.
Romans 2:
[12] For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
[13] (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
What could be more clear than those words?
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Thanks for your response, E-S. Hope you are well.
Fortunately, I came to Christ through prayer and weeping tears of repentance (the old-fashioned way :-)) rather than through a system. I thank God for that because I had no religious baggage to shed.
Which brings me to ask how He accepted me apart from keeping the law. And I’m a little uneasy asking this because I see you’ve been asked it before and never answered: Do you perform animal sacrifice? Or are you without sin and have no need of the law of animal sacrifice?
How do you square your position of being under the old law with:
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
To be sure, I try with all my might to obey the 10 commandments and try to live by them. I am a sinner who tries desperately not to sin because He has justified me, because I belong to Him, and because I love Him.
You’re quoting the Book of Romans, which, in my humble opinion, is the Book ON Grace. Praise be to God. I thank God daily it’s there! So what do you make of what follows your quote? How do you understand it?
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Rom 2:17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
Rom 2:18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
Rom 2:19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
Rom 2:20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
Rom 2:21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
Rom 2:22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
Rom 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
Rom 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
Rom 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Rom 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Best Regards,
SC
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>> “Which brings me to ask how He accepted me apart from keeping the law” <<
He didn’t.
If you are his, he wrote Torah on your heart, and you are keeping his commandments.
If his commandments are anathema to you, then you are not his, since this is shown by Jeremiah to be the key to being grafted into the covenant.
Yehova’s word has no conflicts, nor contradictions.
That which meshes with all of his word is his truth.
If you find Hebrews 10 to be in conflict with Romans 2, more reading is in order.
Romans 2:26 is the key to that chapter.
Hebrews 10 is mostly about the animal sacrifice, which Yehova ended in the year 68, when he sent the Roman generals to demolish the no longer needed temple.
In Matthew ch 7 Yeshua addresses those that would be without his laws, as Paul does in 2Thessalonians 2:7 where he addresses that desire to be without the law as “the Mystery of Iniquity” (confusion of lawlessness)
If his law is written on our hearts, we seek to do his will, rather than seeking excuses for living apart therefrom.
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Today’s ‘the Day’.
I don’t believe there will be a rapture today ...
BUT ...
You gave unwelcome advise to FRiends based on information that many others believe.
That not only takes courage, it also takes brotherly love.
Thank you, and ...
FRegards
Just as long as you believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, that He died for your sins and was raised from the dead by Abba Father YHWH, you will be OK.
I'm waiting
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