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2017 NFL TV RATINGS - Week 1
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Posted on 09/13/2017 9:09:35 PM PDT by 11th_VA

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To: TigerClaws

That game the other night felt like I was watching some sort of happy diversity rally. I can’t believe they let Beth Mowins do that game! MNF used to be the flagship of the league! If I switch on the 11am B1G game on ESPN and I hear her voice, I am off to another channel. And that sideline guy Dipp with his little high enthusiasm “diversity!” comments about Vance Joseph. I was on the Freep at the time that happened and not paying attention with the game on in the background. I had to stop and rewind the DVR to make sure that I heard that correctly and hadn’t accidentally switched to MSLSD or CNN. That was almost as disturbing as a compound tibia fracture or knee bending the wrong way. Yikes. Those of you that haven’t seen it, check it out on Youtube.

I am still watching the NFL. It is pretty hard for the addict to throw down his needle. This stuff is making it harder and harder to stay with it however.


81 posted on 09/14/2017 5:56:46 AM PDT by Big Red Clay (Greetings from the Big Red State)
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To: 11th_VA

NFL: Negros, Felons, and Liberals. NO one else invited or wanted.


82 posted on 09/14/2017 5:59:20 AM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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To: Jonny7797
Oftentimes after a spectacular play.

The fan goes from an excited "Wow! Yesss!!", to a despondent "oh."

83 posted on 09/14/2017 6:01:54 AM PDT by daler
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To: sparklite2
...I am in Ocala, Florida,...

I'm in Lakeland.

84 posted on 09/14/2017 6:03:11 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Enterprise

The only way to watch sports today on tv is muted. I turn on my favorite music playlist and read my Kindle. If there is a play worth watching. They will replay it a few times. Commercials breeze by with Kindle and music. And you never hear the politics.


85 posted on 09/14/2017 6:19:50 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (If GOP won House, Senate and Presidency...why are the Democrats still in charge?)
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Article about the bizarre sideline reporter (closet case Hispanic):

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/09/12/espn-sideline-reporter-apologizes-after-tv-debut-mocked-online/23205899/

And his apology where he plays every card there is:

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Spanish-NFL-reporter-Sergio-Dipp-apologizes-for-on-air-goof-107317278

The Cleveland Browns are playing a 3 minute ‘diversity’ video in exchange for not kneeling:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/10/cleveland-browns-pre-anthem-video

And we - the taxpayer suckers - are paying SEVEN BILLION a year in corporate welfare to the NFL:

http://www.vocativ.com/304531/the-nfl-has-scammed-taxpayers-out-of-7-billion/


86 posted on 09/14/2017 6:21:44 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: sparklite2

How ‘bout them Cowboys!


87 posted on 09/14/2017 11:32:37 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey

                            Suffer, baby.

88 posted on 09/14/2017 11:41:00 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Big Red Clay


Did you also complain about Phyllis George?

89 posted on 09/14/2017 11:46:35 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: sparklite2

As far as I know, Phyllis George never did the TV play by play for an NFL game. I know there was a woman who did play by play for a game back in the 80’s but I did not see it so I cannot comment. I vaguely remember Phyllis George on the NFL Today but that was a long time ago and I honestly cannot remember whether I liked her or not.

As a matter of taste, I don’t like women commentators or sideline reporters for football. If that makes me a chauvinist then so be it. In the case of Beth Mowins, her voice is annoying, as is her accent. She sounds like Hillary Clinton with a sore throat in my opinion and I would prefer to avoid that.

My opinion is that the networks are trying to appeal to a demographic with the number of female commentators on all the sports game broadcasts and sports comment/highlight shows. I am including in this ESPN family of networks and the NFL Network and Big Ten Network which I watch fairly frequently. That is their business decision but as a consumer I don’t have to like it.

I will say that I enjoy Dotty Pepper on the PGA broadcasts. She is extremely knowledgable and her comments and reporting are normally excellent.


90 posted on 09/14/2017 12:14:16 PM PDT by Big Red Clay (Greetings from the Big Red State)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I have watched less in recent years, even before the Kapernick nonsense.

A group of us at the pub had a conversation yesterday about the declining NFL ratings, and the Kapernick situation was not the driving force. The "concussion" issue is also not a driving force given the fact that NCAA football ratings remain strong. Here's a list of our theories in no particular order:

1. The salary cap has created a revolving door that has weakened the connection between fans and the team. For example, 20 or 30 years ago, most of us could name all 22 starting players, the punter, and kicker on our favorite teams because they were there year-after-year. Under the current contract, however, players are routinely released or traded after a year, and most of us couldn't name more than three or four players on the current roster.

2. Play-by-play, color, and side-line commentators who not only suck at what they do, but are really annoying. We all agreed that the radio commentators are much better calling the game because they have to be really good given the medium.

3. Political correctness on the part of both the NFL and the broadcasters that try to shove a social agenda down are throats when all we want to do is watch football. This includes the pink uniform accessories for breast cancer month, gay pride, and the new transgender outreach program. Nearly all of us agreed that we don't give a rat's ass whether a player (or a fan) likes to wear panties, use the ladies room, or have sex with other guys, as long long as the players respect the game and the fans, and play football the way the game is supposed to be played while on the field.

4. Commercials breaks that are too many and too long, particularly on Sunday night and Monday night when there are no other games on to compete for viewership. We all agreed that this is less of an issue with NCAA football because there are usually several games on at the same time and if the commercial time-outs are too long, then they run the risk that the viewers will switch to another game. This past Monday night, for example, I channel flipped during a 4.5 minute commercial break during the first half of the Denver game. Two times I switched back to the game only to find it was still in a commercial time out. I ended up watching a documentary on 9/11, and when it went to a commercial break, I switched back to the Denver game only to find that it was in yet another long commercial break. This happened several more times. I gave up on the game.

5. Too many play reviews. Most of us agreed that the game would flow much better if reviews were limited to only plays that involve a change of possession situation or a scoring situation, and only if the review could reasonably be expected to affect the outcome of the game. If the score is 21 - 0 in the first quarter, then a review of change of possession situation might be reasonable; not so, however, if the score is 21 - 0 with 32 seconds left in the game.

91 posted on 09/14/2017 12:46:56 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
Too many play reviews.

That's a big one for me. Totally ruins the flow, I'd rather go back to the old way without review, or limit their use the the last two minutes of each half, as they did originally.

Bad calls tend to cancel each other out during the course of a game, anyway.

92 posted on 09/14/2017 12:48:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Big Red Clay

That’s the joke, that your college football team isn’t very good, if they have a woman announcing your games.


93 posted on 09/14/2017 12:50:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Labyrinthos

Good points, I concur with all of them. The player turnover definitely is an issue, as the players come and go so quickly nowadays.

The commercials are clearly turning many viewers off, and the increased commercial time being sold, may be offset by having fewer viewers watching.

I have a friend who DVRs the games, and fast forwards thru commercials. I’m sure he’s not the only person to do that, so as not to have to sit there for three and a half hours.

I question the need for replay reviews. I may be in the minority, but sometimes, I really can’t tell anything from the replay, such as, did he have 2 feet inbounds or not? And it seems as if most of the time, the call on the field is upheld. It takes so much time. If they could quickly look at the replay and decide, might be a different story. but it seems to take so long to make a final decision. It interrupts the flow of the game.


94 posted on 09/14/2017 1:09:03 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: dfwgator

Beth has not done one of my teams games yet that I know of. The way this year is going it may well happen, though.


95 posted on 09/14/2017 4:11:11 PM PDT by Big Red Clay (Greetings from the Big Red State)
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To: sparklite2

(Snicker, snicker)


96 posted on 09/14/2017 5:08:18 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Big Red Clay

I hear Romo did a bang-up job, even to PREDICTING plays.
Hope to hear him soon.


97 posted on 09/14/2017 5:11:09 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Good question. Here is what I found:

Year Games Total Plays Reviewed Avg. Reviews/ Game Total Plays Reversed Percentage of plays reversed Avg. Delay/ Review
1999 248 195 0.8 57 29% 2:54
2000 248 247 1.0 84 34% 3:05
2001 248 258 1.0 89 34% 3:04
2002 256 294 1.1 94 32% 3:01
2003 256 255 1.0 66 26% 3:13
2004 256 283 1.1 88 31% 3:18
2005 256 295 1.2 92 31% 3:16
2006 256 311 1.2 107 34% 2:37
2007 256 327 1.3 122 37% 2:38
2008 256 315 1.2 117 37% 2:40
2009 256 328 1.3 126 38% 2:39
2010 256 361 1.4 133 37% 2:42
2011 256 390 1.5 172 44% 2:30
2012 256 435 1.7 170 39% 2:33
2013 256 423 1.7 185 44% 2:25
2014 256 439 1.7 151 34% 2:13
2015 256 415 1.6 176 42% 2:16
2016 256 345 1.3 149 43% 2:25
1999–2016 4,584 5,916 1.3 2,178 37% 2:45


98 posted on 09/15/2017 10:05:45 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: Enterprise

Agreed. That was disturbing.


99 posted on 09/15/2017 10:06:21 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: Jonny7797

Thanks for the info.

So we see that most plays are not reversed.

But we also see that on close plays, the kind which are challenged in the first place, there are many times when the refs missed the call. Or the view from various camera angles, a view differing from what the referee saw, reveals a different call to be made.

I don’t doubt that sometimes the refs miss things in the tangle and mass of bodies on the field.


100 posted on 09/15/2017 10:13:34 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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