Posted on 09/10/2017 2:02:02 PM PDT by NautiNurse
The entire Florida Peninsula has begun to experience Hurricane Irma following landfall at Marco Island. Thousands of Floridians who evacuated the Atlantic cost to Gulf Coast areas found their safe shelter under direct threat from Hurricane Irma as the forecast shifted W Friday night and Saturday. Prayers for all in the storm path.
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No comparisons....bad is still bad.
Thanks...am sure that will be helpful for some who haven’t a clue where to begin.
Thanks for doing yeoman’s work on these threads. It is appreciated. I do have one complaint, however. If you say something stupid that I disagree with in the future on an unrelated thread, I will probably think back to your public service here and be less likely to call you names even if you deserve it and even if I really want to spout off. So that grates on me a bit. :-)
On a side note to some others: Yes, Irma was not as bad as Camille or Katrina. I remember them both vividly. Thankful that Irma was not as bad as forecast, although some areas were indeed hit rather hard. However, Camille and Katrina come into play, because, with Irma as a large, persistent, category 5 hurricane headed toward the United States mainland, it was reasonable to think that another Camille or Katrina was possible. The next time that a large, persistent, category 5 hurricane heads our way, should we not evacuate based on your downplay of the possible ramifications? Alas, I fear that you are neither a prophet nor the son of a prophet.
Best wishes in the rebuilding process to those who suffered from Irma and Harvey.
Anyone who studies hurricane history knows they are fickle, will do unexpected things that put a lot of people in harm's way, and to assume that decisions can be made with utter certainty in a timely enough manner to act upon them is being completely unrealistic.
It went just a few miles further south over Cuba than they predicted - and then the shear and dry air from the Gulf took a big toll on the south side of Irma just after it passed the Keys. It was a very narrow avoidance of the feared Cat 5 hit.
Let me clarify for you.
The flooding in Jacksonville, especially near San Marco and Nira is far worse than expected.
I would love to do a deep dive thread on Charlottesville and all the mulatto property owners with you at some point.
Because all those cafe a lait babies did not create themselves. :-)
Jacksonville had just had a major storm go through there WHILE Irma was creeping up the state. Some mistook it for the bands of Irma which were not there yet. Then of course Irma got there with what is now determined ‘CAT 3# STORM SURGE’...added to that Jose’ was pushing water forward which otherwise might have drained out.
I was on the phone most of the night with my brother who lives there....lots of wind and rain pounding in his area @ large trees were uprooted of which he sent photos of in his neighborhood, which was above the flood zones. Lost electric about 2:00AM Sunday/Monday...it was a long night! But by onday night had their electric restored.
All in all it’s been a mess in Jacksonville breaking all previous records for flooding.
Maybe it was a neap tide.
They arose from a variety of sources. Assuming they all were fathered by slave owners is erroneous. That’s not to say that that did not occur, but it’s far from predominant, let alone being due to rape as is commonly accused. There were randy younger male relatives of the owner, there were overseers. The largest mulatto communities in my awareness arose from basically outlaw camps in the wilderness on colonial borders or state lines pretty far back, comprised of runaway white indentured servants, runaway black slaves and some natives who for whatever reason joined them.
Thank you for your kind and thoughtful comments! I can say that receiving a robo Emergency Management call at 0500 on the day of landfall stating “Get Out Now! Storm Surge 12-15ft expected” is startling. Fortunately, it didn’t happen. Very fortunate. And that is a fact, not an opinion.
Off topic. This is a Hurricane Irma thread.
Thank you for the dispassionate, concise reply. My apologies.
I’ll have to jump back in my research, but one mulatto woman from Monticello was given a parcel right in the middle of her presumed father’s (and 1/2 brothers land.)
However iirc they took measures to improve flow out of the city - expanding lanes and setting up means to close off inbound freeway lanes to permit ALL lanes to be outbound. this seemed to be ignored in Houston, but was used in Florida.
Video last night of evacuees heading back south after Hurricane #Irma. Remember to fill up w/ gas anytime you can. Zero lodging available pic.twitter.com/Jdmsnm3E7H— Reed Timmer (@ReedTimmerAccu) September 12, 2017
The DOT in Florida has a well-developed “Contraflow” plan as do all the hurricane-prone southeastern Atlantic and Gulf Coast States, including TXDOT in Texas. The Houston mayor declining to issue a mandatory evacuation prevented the governor’s declaration that would have set contraflow into motion out of Houston, to my understanding.
That depends on which NHC forecast you look at. They were moving the track on and off Cuba, several times. On the Thurday, when they first started talking about a Cat 4/5 hitting Miami, they were showing it brushing the coast of Cuba, but NOT making landfall there... hence, little to no weakening.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/IRMA_graphics.php?product=5day_cone_with_line_and_wind
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