[DiogenesLamp]

And RE Lee's family opposed rebellion (Whiskey Rebellion), while Bobby Lee himself ended John Brown's rebellion, before Lee supported the Slave-holders' Rebellion.

"Someone else did it too!" is not a rational rebuttal of the point.

Lincoln twice said that people had a right to gain independence if they wanted it, then he did everything he could to prevent people from gaining that independence he had previously championed. That independence he had regarded as a "sacred right."

[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: ""Someone else did it too!" is not a rational rebuttal of the point."

So you don't defend the Lees' flip-flop on the subject of rebellion?
Curious.

DiogenesLamp: "Lincoln twice said that people had a right to gain independence if they wanted it, then he did everything he could to prevent people from gaining that independence..."

But you well know that Lincoln & Buchanan both did nothing -- zero, zip, nada -- to prevent Deep South Fire Eaters from declaring secession or their new Confederacy.
Lincoln only said there must be peace and could not be war unless Confederates started it.
Which they soon enough did.

All of which you well know, but continue to propagandize falsehoods anyway.

[piasa]

Probably because they were going about it in an unlawful, unconstitional way.