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To: RightGeek; dirtboy; janetjanet998
The screeching right turn coming up Saturday night is the only thing straining predictability.

I would tend to agree with you, except we have witnessed a big, powerful storm do exactly that before. Does anyone remember which storm that was that essentially turned on a dime?

739 posted on 09/07/2017 9:27:46 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: NautiNurse

Well, Matthew turned suddenly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Matthew#/media/File:Matthew_2016_track.png


741 posted on 09/07/2017 9:33:21 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: NautiNurse

No no - I don’t mean that it can’t do it. I mean that that is the real unpredictable part.


742 posted on 09/07/2017 9:35:13 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: NautiNurse

Wow. I hope this baby makes another course correction due north soon because the latest spaghetti models has it going straight up the toll road into Georgia and then into Tennessee. It could do as much damage to Atlanta as Harvey did to Houston. That would be amazing.

Trump gave $1 million of his own money to Harvey victims. I hope he hasn’t set a precedent or he could be shelling out even more for Irma.


743 posted on 09/07/2017 9:36:16 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Let Trump Be Trump. Would you rather have Hillary?)
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To: NautiNurse

Yes. It was Charlie 2004. Made a hairpin right turn just south of Tampa Bay and scooted up to the Orlando area where people had fled the storm. Tampa Bay was spared once again. This time? We have no idea what to expect.


752 posted on 09/07/2017 9:56:46 PM PDT by GoKnow
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To: NautiNurse

The 1780 Atlantic hurricane season ran through the summer and fall in 1780. The 1780 season was extraordinarily destructive, and was the deadliest Atlantic hurricane season in recorded history with over 28,000 deaths. Four different hurricanes, one in June and three in October, caused at least 1,000 deaths each;[1][2] this event has never been repeated and only in the 1893 and 2005 seasons were there two such hurricanes.[3] The season also had the deadliest Atlantic hurricane of all time, since known as the Great Hurricane of 1780.

Landfalling storms affected the Lesser Antilles, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Cuba, Bermuda, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida, and the New England states.

San Antonio Hurricane

The San Antonio Hurricane,[5] also known as the St. Lucia Hurricane. On June 13, a hurricane "caused deaths and losses" on Puerto Rico, after having also struck St. Lucia, where it killed around 4,000 to 5,000.[4][6] It later went on to the Dominican Republic.[5]

Louisiana Hurricane

New Orleans experienced a powerful hurricane on August 24, with winds gusting over 160 mph completely destroying 39 of the 43 buildings in Grand Isle, Louisiana then the eye passing over New Orleans that night, severely damaging structures in what is now known as the French Quarter, causing harvest-ruining crop damage, severe flooding, and tornadoes. This was from an entry from Count de Lafrenière's diary. It killed around 25 people.[6]

St. Kitts Tropical Storm

On August 25, St. Kitts in the Leeward Islands was struck by a storm.[4]

Savanna-la-Mar Hurricane

A strong storm formed in the southern Caribbean Sea on October 1. Early on, it sunk the British transport ship Monarch, killing several hundred Spanish prisoners and the ship's entire crew. The hurricane began to move northwest towards Jamaica, where it destroyed the port of Savanna-la-Mar on October 3. Many of the town's residents gathered at the coast to spectate, and 20 foot surge engulfed the onlookers, docked ships, and many of the town's buildings. In the nearby port village of Lucea, 400 people and all but two structures perished, with 360 people also killed in the nearby town of Montego Bay. It would go on to sink the British frigate Phoenix (killing 200 of it crew) and ships-of-the-line Victor, Barbadoes, and Scarborough and crippled many others. It continued its direction, and hit Cuba on October 4, followed by a pass over the Bahamas.[6] By some estimates, the storm caused 3,000 deaths.[1][2]

The Great Hurricane

Main article: Great Hurricane of 1780

The second hurricane of October 1780 is still referred to as "The Great Hurricane" in some places. Its official name, and how it is referred to by most Antillians is "San Calixto Hurricane" and it is also called the "Great Hurricane of the Antilles".[5] The storm had winds of 135 miles per hour or greater and forward motion speed of less than 10 miles per hour.[6] Causing a record 22,000 deaths in the eastern Caribbean Sea, it rates as the all-time deadliest hurricane in the Atlantic. "Further, the historical importance of the storm was heightened by the presence of the powerful fleets of Britain and France, both maneuvering on nearby islands to strike blows at each other's rich possessions in the Antilles."[4]

The storm formed before or on October 10. It devastated the island of Barbados on October 10 with 200+ mph wind gusts,[7] killing 4,300 and creating an economic depression. St. Vincent suffered a 20-foot (6 meter) storm surge. The storm went on to kill 6,000 people on the island of St. Lucia and 9,000 on Martinique, with its capital city, St. Pierre, becoming almost completely demolished. It later moved northwestward toward the island of St. Eustatius, killing 4,000 to 5,000 and devastating Puerto Rico, Dominique, and Bermuda. The storm dissipated on or after October 18.[1]

Solano's Hurricane

A powerful hurricane in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico struck a Spanish war fleet of 64 vessels under José Solano en route from Havana, Cuba to attack Pensacola, Florida, then the capital of British West Florida. The ships had 4,000 men aboard under the military command of Bernardo de Gálvez, and 2,000 died.[8] The slow-moving hurricane, known to history as "Solano's hurricane", was first noted near Jamaica on October 15. Progressing northwestwards it likely crossed the western end of Cuba, before shifting northeastwards to Apalachee Bay. It struck Solano's fleet on October 20. According to Emanuel (2005), it dissipated somewhere over the southeastern United States around October 22,[1] but Chenoweth (2006) argues that it crossed the U.S. and finally dissipated over the North Atlantic on October 26.[9] It has likely been detected in tree-ring isotope records from Valdosta, Georgia.[10]

Lesser Antilles Hurricane

In late October, a tropical cyclone struck Barbados and then St. Lucia on October 23.[4][6]

New England Hurricane

Around November 17, a tropical cyclone moved up the east coast of the United States disrupting the British blockade of the New England states. It is unknown whether this storm was fully tropical.[6]

820 posted on 09/08/2017 5:31:01 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: NautiNurse
I would tend to agree with you, except we have witnessed a big, powerful storm do exactly that before. Does anyone remember which storm that was that essentially turned on a dime?

Sorry, i thought the last post had one that like that, but there is more than one Hurricane's unexpected turn:

Hurricane Charley’s sharp turn baffles scientists By Gaia Vince A last-minute swerve to the right by Hurricane Charley which devastated the coastal Florida town of Punta Gorda over the weekend, has baffled experts. The 258 km/hour hurricane that flattened the US town on Friday afternoon, killing at least 20 people and injuring many others, was predicted to hit land 70 miles further north, but changed direction within minutes of the coast. “There was a sudden intensification and a veering to the right of track , and we’re all trying to work out why,” said Mark Saunders, a tropical storm expert from Benfield Hazard Centre at University College London, UK. Daily news 16 August 2004 https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6285-hurricane-charleys-sharp-turn-baffles-scientists/

Hurricane Floyd was the only hurricane to make landfall in the United States in the 1987 Atlantic hurricane season. The final of seven tropical storms and three hurricanes, Floyd developed on October 9 just off the east coast of Nicaragua. After becoming a tropical storm, it moved northward and crossed western Cuba. An approaching cold front caused Floyd to turn unexpectedly to the northeast, and late on October 12 it attained hurricane status near the Florida Keys. It moved through southern Florida, spawning two tornadoes and leaving minor damage. The hurricane also produced rip tides that killed a person in southern Texas. Floyd maintained hurricane status for only 12 hours before the cold front imparted hostile conditions and caused weakening. It passed through the Bahamas before becoming extratropical and later dissipating on October 14. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Floyd_(1987)

Hurricane Isidore was the ninth named storm and the second hurricane in the 2002 Atlantic hurricane season. Isidore was the fifth of eight named storms to occur in September.[1] The tropical cyclone peaked as a Category 3 hurricane, causing damage as well as four fatalities in Jamaica, Cuba, Mexico, and the United States.[2] Isidore is noted for threatening to strike the northern Gulf Coast as a Category 4 hurricane, but instead striking as a moderate tropical storm due to a track change that brought the storm over the Yucatán Peninsula for over a day, which significantly weakened the cyclone. Its primary impact was the heavy rainfall which fell across southeast Mexico and from the central United States Gulf coast into the Ohio Valley.[3]...Due to Isidore's unexpected southward turn i nto the Yucatán Peninsula, Isidore weakened significantly to a tropical storm which limited potential damage along the United States Gulf Coast.

833 posted on 09/08/2017 5:56:19 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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